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From: Bill Hannahan <wfhannahan@yahoo.com>
Subject:  [LML] 320/360 efficiency and economy - hole in the market?
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   I agree Fred. My 360 has flown from Longmont CO, north of Denver, to Lakeland nonstop four times, and back nonstop once. On two of those trips I had a passenger. We planned to stop whenever we got hungry or needed a pit stop, but never did.
   
  A friend offered to give me a ride to Sun N Fun in his IVP. I explained that it would cost me more to buy half the gas for his 4, so he rode with me.
  

Fred Moreno <fredmoreno@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
                I have been pondering Lorn’s commentary about how his 320 cannot be beat for efficient and cost effective cross country cruising.  
   
  With oil probably permanently above $70-80/bbl and avgas at $5 a gallon, he makes an excellent point.  Efficiency (particularly cost efficiency) should be a key figure of merit.  
   
  However, Lancair has gone upscale and offers only expensive, fire-breathing kit airplanes.   This list has noted that a Legacy starts at $200K completed, and works up.  
   
  Has Lancair left a hole in the market place?  
   
  If one could produce a relatively simple, fast and efficient lower cost kit for 320/360 engines, is there a currently untapped market?  
   
  The most efficient cross country airplane I have found is the Dyn-Aero MCR Sporter which has one kit version (short wings) that carries two people at 160 knots on 100 Rotax horsepower – fixed gear no less.  But it lacks the sex and beauty of the Lancair family airplanes.  And we all know that airplanes have to be beautiful, particularly after all that labor.
   
  Is it time to bring back the Lancair 320, upgraded, simpler, even slicker, and keep it inexpensive?
   
  Ever curious Fred




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  Bill Hannahan
  
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&nbsp;  <div class=MsoNormal>I agree Fred. My 360 has flown from <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place><st1:City>Longmont</st1:City> <st1:State>CO</st1:State></st1:place>, north of <st1:City><st1:place>Denver</st1:place></st1:City>, to <st1:City><st1:place>Lakeland</st1:place></st1:City> nonstop four times, and back nonstop once. On two of those trips I had a passenger. We planned to stop whenever we got hungry or needed a pit stop, but never did.</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div>  <div class=MsoNormal>A friend offered to give me a ride to Sun N Fun in his IVP. I explained that it would cost me more to buy half the gas for his 4, so he rode with me.</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><BR><BR><B><I>Fred Moreno &lt;fredmoreno@optusnet.com.au&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
 BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">  <META content="Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)" name=Generator>  <STYLE>  <!--   /* Style Definitions */   p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal   {margin:0cm;   margin-bottom:.0001pt;   font-size:12.0pt;   font-family:"Times New Roman";}  a:link, span.MsoHyperlink   {color:blue;   text-decoration:underline;}  a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed   {color:purple;   text-decoration:underline;}  span.EmailStyle17   {font-family:Arial;   color:windowtext;   font-weight:normal;   font-style:normal;   text-decoration:none none;}  @page Section1   {size:595.3pt 841.9pt;   margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;}  div.Section1   {page:Section1;}  -->  </STYLE>    <DIV class=Section1>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I have been pondering Lorn’s commentary about how his 320 cannot be beat for efficient and cost effective cross country cruising.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></div>  <div
 class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">With oil probably permanently above $70-80/bbl and avgas at $5 a gallon, he makes an excellent point.&nbsp; Efficiency (particularly cost efficiency) should be a key figure of merit.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">However, Lancair has gone upscale and offers only expensive, fire-breathing kit airplanes.&nbsp; &nbsp;This list has noted that a Legacy starts at $200K completed, and works up.&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div
 class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Has Lancair left a hole in the market place?&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If one could produce a relatively simple, fast and efficient lower cost kit for 320/360 engines, is there a currently untapped market?&nbsp; </SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The most efficient cross country airplane I have found is the Dyn-Aero MCR Sporter which has one kit version (short wings) that carries two people at 160 knots on 100 Rotax horsepower – fixed gear no less.&nbsp; But it lacks
 the sex and beauty of the Lancair family airplanes.&nbsp; And we all know that airplanes have to be beautiful, particularly after all that labor.</SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is it time to bring back the Lancair 320, upgraded, simpler, even slicker, and keep it inexpensive?</SPAN></FONT></div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</div>  <div class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ever curious Fred</SPAN></FONT></div></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR><DIV>Regards,</DIV>  <DIV>Bill Hannahan</DIV>  <DIV><BR><A href="mailto:wfhannahan@yahoo.com">wfhannahan@yahoo.com</A></DIV><p>&#32;
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