X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:10:11 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [70.62.14.124] (HELO server1.USTEK) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2603385 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:59:08 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=70.62.14.124; envelope-from=r.simon@ustek.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [LML] Re: VG's for cooling - missing post? Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-Original-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:01:50 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Re: VG's for cooling - missing post? thread-index: AchBdidrSpVqhqfJTEKqzNVUvEvjcQ== From: "Lancair" X-Original-Sender: "Robert Simon" X-Original-To: "John Schroeder" , John, A vortex generator is an aerodynamic surface, consisting of a small vane that creates a vortex. They can be found in many devices, but the term is most often used in aircraft design. They are often used in pairs, angled toward each other at the leading edge and forming a "V".=20 Vortex generators are added to the leading edge of a swept wing in order to maintain steady airflow over the control surfaces at the rear of the wing. They are typically rectangular or triangular, tall enough to protrude above the boundary layer, and run in spanwise lines near the thickest part of the wing. They can be seen on the wings and vertical tails of many airliners. Vortex generators are positioned in such a way that they have an angle of attack with respect to the local airflow. A vortex generator creates a tip vortex which draws energetic, rapidly-moving air from outside the slow-moving boundary layer into contact with the aircraft skin. The boundary layer normally thickens as it moves along the aircraft surface, reducing the effectiveness of trailing-edge control surfaces; vortex generators can be used to remedy this problem, among others, by re-energizing the boundary layer. Vortex generators delay flow separation and aerodynamic stalling; they improve the effectiveness of control surfaces (e.g Embraer 170 and Symphony SA-160); and, for swept-wing transonic designs, they alleviate potential shock-stall problems (e.g. Harrier, Blackburn Buccaneer, Gloster Javelin). Many aircraft carry vane vortex generators from time of manufacture, but there are also after-market suppliers who sell VG kits to improve the STOL performance of some light aircraft. Robert M. Simon (Wikipedia info) -----Original Message----- From: John Schroeder [mailto:jschroeder@perigee.net]=20 Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 7:28 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Re: VG's for cooling - missing post? I must have missed it, but does anyone have a definition of "VG" plus pictures and mounting instructions for their installation. Many thanks, John Schroeder LNCE - 180 hours. On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 07:25:14 -0500, Douglas Brunner wrote: > No that was from me, but I think Robert Simon has ordered them and may have them installed. > > I put some on temporarily but don't have any good data yet about what effect they have. > > D. Brunner > douglasbrunner@earthlink.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Colyn Case on earthlink > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:19 PM > Subject: [LML] VG's for cooling - missing post? > > > I can't find the original post about VG's for cooling. Was that from Robert Simon? >