X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:28:03 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [70.62.14.124] (HELO server1.USTEK) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2601869 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:26:49 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=70.62.14.124; envelope-from=r.simon@ustek.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C840B0.DB01D9D4" Subject: RE: Need Wing Deice Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 08:29:27 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Need Wing Deice thread-index: AchAsNirFVTlBB3EQTW3LSB0XoVcMA== From: "Lancair" X-Original-Sender: "Robert Simon" X-Original-To: , This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C840B0.DB01D9D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just read an after-the-crash account of a Cirrus with a weeping wing system that went down in ice. The article noted that 1.) in preventative mode the tanks held only 60 min. of fluid and if used during actual accretion the time was 30 minutes. and 2.) removal of ice already on the wing was problematic and not guaranteed. The plane also employed the Cirrus get-out-of-jail card and the 'chute failed to get the plane down, possibily operated beyond its speed envelope.=20 =20 All our de-ice systems are tools to bail out of a situation into which we have inadvertantly inserted ourselves, but this wet wing seems to have a few more limitations. I have heard that RDD is working on a separate alternator hot wing system for the PT (and perhaps the Evolution?) so you might contact them. =20 =20 I write this sitting on the ground in the Midwest staring at our traditionally grey and ice-filled skies. =20 =20 Robert M. Simon ES-P N301ES ________________________________ From: YoSamuel@aol.com [mailto:YoSamuel@aol.com]=20 Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:19 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Need Wing Deice I want to get a de-ice system for the Lancair IV-P-TURBINE powered . I am interested in any opinions or suggestions on what is available and what can be used. the system mike custard was selling is now not available. (does anyone have his system and want to sell it?) the thermal wing is available but the alternator for this system draws too much H.Q. for the turbine acc. drive. I was told about 10 HP =20 what about the weeping wing system . is it still available , is it any good , is it time consuming to install? is there something else out there?.................thanks for any info please email me at martinheisler@hotmail.com ________________________________ See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape = for winter. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C840B0.DB01D9D4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just read = an=20 after-the-crash account of a Cirrus = with a=20 weeping wing system that went down in ice. The article noted that = 1.) in=20 preventative mode the tanks held only 60 min. of fluid and if used = during actual=20 accretion the time was 30 minutes. and 2.) removal of ice already on the = wing=20 was problematic and not guaranteed. The plane also employed the = Cirrus=20 get-out-of-jail card and the 'chute failed to get the plane down, = possibily=20 operated beyond its speed envelope.

All our de-ice systems are tools to bail out = of a=20 situation into which we have inadvertantly inserted ourselves, but this = wet wing=20 seems to have a few more limitations. I have heard that RDD is = working on=20 a separate alternator hot wing system for the PT (and = perhaps the=20 Evolution?) so you might contact them.

I write this sitting on the ground in the = Midwest=20 staring at our traditionally grey and ice-filled skies. =20

Robert M. Simon

ES-P N301ES

From: YoSamuel@aol.com = [mailto:YoSamuel@aol.com]=20
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:19 PM
To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Need Wing = Deice

I want to get a de-ice system for the Lancair IV-P-TURBINE powered = . I am=20 interested in any opinions or suggestions on what is available and what = can be=20 used. the system mike custard was selling is now not = available.=20 (does anyone have his system and want to sell it?) the thermal = wing is=20 available but the alternator for this system draws too much H.Q. for the = turbine=20 acc. drive. I was told about 10 HP
what about the = weeping=20 wing system . is it still available , is it any good , is it time = consuming to=20 install?
is there something else out there?.................thanks = for any=20 info

please email me at martinheisler@hotmail.com

See AOL's top rated recipes and easy ways to stay in shape for=20 winter.

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