X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 14:27:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web81514.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.199.34] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with SMTP id 2553628 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 12:04:34 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.199.34; envelope-from=kneadedpleasures@sbcglobal.net Received: (qmail 70239 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Dec 2007 17:03:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=zQFrR8cqM72pubs2bFaXvRSMLl/VGGxGUpDN1tgMyKz8MTn0Yclb9WXbsqSAOPNlGG7dXgWu+rwIGUaH8OgXuz7luq01zRpvb/LbB2wfauROueXpBeH/CIqhBTVQYFH0w47xWiMXzVBaGzSkePrIpsz1UEtFLK9ea7tgQeIceOM=; X-YMail-OSG: sfcskaQVM1mggArr3qe4VdJ3qQ0HVSWSCZI980ydNY_sHMjLuN18t3LpayFwu30rPQwTXQ-- Received: from [71.145.175.111] by web81514.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Dec 2007 09:03:56 PST X-Original-Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:03:56 -0800 (PST) From: kneaded pleasures Subject: Removing ram air duct from 360 cowling X-Original-To: List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-599363300-1196701436=:69494" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Message-ID: <966982.69494.qm@web81514.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-599363300-1196701436=:69494 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Scott writes, "At 183 KIAS I should be seeing about +1.5" Hg added to the MAP because of a dedicated ram induction port." And I too "should be seeing about +1.5" Hg added to the MAP because of a dedicated ram induction port" but I clearly am not. My ram air port now adds only .25 to .35 inches of pressure and I don't understand why not more. Clearly, the consensus of our builders and fliers favors the installation and use of ram air ports in our Lancairs. As I understand it, the worst that should happen after I remove the ram air is that my aircraft performance should be no worse than it now is - and that is a happy event! Like you, I am capable of flying at 183 knots using just 90% of my available power (long wings, 0360, after-market injection and electronic ignition). More often, cross country flights are at 12000 feet and 175 knots cruise. I love it! Removing the ram air should reduce weight and complexity while facilitating maintenance (cowling easier to remove & install), streamlining the cowling and permitting better sealing of cooling air. The experiences of others have varied but, for me, the only downside that I can see is a theoretical reduction in speed/power at high altitudes and airspeeds (but not on takeoffs, landings and slower airspeeds). Are there other safety or performance factors that should be considered? Thanks to all for your comments. Greg Nelson --0-599363300-1196701436=:69494 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Scott writes,  "At 183 KIAS I should be seeing about +1.5" Hg added to the MAP because of a dedicated ram induction port."
 
And I too "should be seeing about +1.5" Hg added to the MAP because of a dedicated ram induction port" but I clearly am not.  My ram air port now adds only .25 to .35 inches of pressure and I don't understand why not more.  Clearly, the consensus of our builders and fliers favors the installation and use of ram air ports in our Lancairs. 
 
As I understand it, the worst that should happen after I remove the ram air is that my aircraft performance should be no worse than it now is - and that is a happy event!  Like you, I am capable of flying at 183 knots using just 90% of my available power (long wings, 0360, after-market injection and electronic ignition).  More often, cross country flights are at 12000 feet and 175 knots cruise.  I love it!
 
Removing the ram air should reduce weight and complexity while facilitating maintenance (cowling easier to remove & install), streamlining the cowling and permitting better sealing of cooling air.  The experiences of others have varied but, for me, the only downside that I can see is a theoretical reduction in speed/power at high altitudes and airspeeds (but not on takeoffs, landings and slower airspeeds).  Are there other safety or performance factors that should be considered?
 
Thanks to all for your comments.   Greg Nelson
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