Return-Path: Received: from marvkaye.olsusa.com ([205.245.9.93]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with SMTP id com for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:42:59 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20000115114817.0394d180@olsusa.com> Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 11:48:17 -0500 To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: Marvin Kaye Subject: Fuel Bay & Slosh Door X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Posted for Tom Nalevanko : I got a call from Martin Hollmann yesterday re the Stallion and its inboard fuel bay and slosh door. As this design is similar to LIVs, I thought I'd throw out the matter for discussion. Basically, Martin had to make a forced landing last year in the Stallion due to fuel starvation. This event does not seem to be related to the fuel bay and slosh door design but it definitely got him thinking, as only these kind of events do. The theory of the design is that the slosh door will close in an uncoordinated turn, thus keeping (say a minimal level of) fuel in the bay, the fuel intake port submerged, and the engine running. Martin's current thinking is that at high angles of attack, say as in slow flight in the pattern prior to landing, and in an uncoordinated turn, the captive fuel in the closed slosh door bay may be quickly exhausted and it would have been better to simply have switched to the wing whose entire fuel is being pushed up against the fuel intake port beforehand. This, being even more so the case, as builders use larger and more thirsty engines. So, to slosh door it or not to slosh door it, that is the question! And say that you think you have an equal amount of fuel in each wing, do you always switch to the upper tank prior to landing. That is, right traffic pattern, fuel position on left tank. Perhaps you should plan for this, keeping more fuel in the expected "up" wing? It seems to me that introducing further operational considerations during the landing phase is not a good idea. But then, if you can preclude that "sputter, sputter" event, it just may be the thing to do. It would be interesting to know if any other kitplanes or certified designs have slosh bays and how these have worked out. Does anyone know of any books or articles on fuel system design? It seems to me that this is one area for which there is very little info as concerns experimental aircraft. All comments appreciated. Tom Nalevanko Ugly Duckling aka Stallion Builder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>