X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 21:12:36 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m23.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.4] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1566025 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:25:06 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.4; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.be3.573021b (57365) for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:24:43 -0500 (EST) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 19:24:43 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Lancair down in Georgia X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1163550283" X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5031 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1163550283 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en =20 In a message dated 11/14/2006 6:08:33 PM Central Standard Time, =20 MSmith982@mn.rr.com writes: Regardless of cause, it seems to me there is a higher rate of turbine=20 Lancairs crashing than the standard piston versions- some for good reasons=20= and some=20 for not so clear. I don=E2=80=99t have access to exact numbers of flying ty= pe=E2=80=99s=20 hours and so on- but the turbine crashes have taken a front row seat. That= is=20 why one can=E2=80=99t get turbine insurance in Minnesota. I would like to= =20 understand the why and what in that equation. =20 As of 8 June 2006 there were 4 IVP turbine accidents reported/ 25 IV =20 accidents and 6 straight IV accidents. I know because I keep a set of books=20= on this=20 and brief the Lancair group every year at OSH on this. One turbine involved=20= =20 an engine failure but it was an Allied Signal engine. Since June there havs=20= =20 been two additional turbine accidents and one reported IVP accident. Check=20= it=20 out at _www.ntsb.gov_ (http://www.ntsb.gov)=20 =20 Insurance for a turbine in Minnesota has nothing to do with Minnesota. It =20 has a lot to do with your flying experience, hull value, risk, etc. AIG is =20 writing turbine insurance IF you have enough experience and have your aircra= ft =20 inspected by Lancair (one time) and you get Lancair approved flight training= , =20 recurrent training within 6 months and annually thereafter. =20 Best regards, =20 Jeff Edwards LIVP N619SJ Lancair Instructor =20 -------------------------------1163550283 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en

In a message dated 11/14/2006 6:08:33 PM Central Standard Time,=20 MSmith982@mn.rr.com writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000080 size= =3D2>Regardless of c= ause,=20 it seems to me there is a higher rate of turbine Lancairs crashing than th= e=20 standard piston versions- some for good reasons and some for not so clear.= I=20 don=E2=80=99t have access to exact numbers of flying type=E2=80=99s hours=20= and so on- but the=20 turbine crashes have taken a front row seat. That is why one can=E2= =80=99t get=20 turbine insurance in Minnesota. I would like to= =20 understand the why and what in that=20 equation.

As of 8 June 2006 there were 4 IVP turbine accidents reported/ 25 IV=20 accidents and 6 straight IV accidents. I know because I keep a set of books=20= on=20 this and brief the Lancair group every year at OSH on this. One turbine invo= lved=20 an engine failure but it was an Allied Signal engine. Since June there havs=20 been two additional turbine accidents and one reported IVP=20 accident. Check it out at www.ntsb.gov

Insurance for a turbine in Minnesota has nothing to do with Minnesota.=20= It=20 has a lot to do with your flying experience, hull value, risk, etc. AIG is=20 writing turbine insurance IF you have enough experience and have your aircra= ft=20 inspected by Lancair (one time) and you get Lancair approved flight training= ,=20 recurrent training within 6 months and annually thereafter.

Best regards,

Jeff Edwards

LIVP N619SJ

Lancair Instructor

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