X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 00:42:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com ([24.94.166.122] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.2) with ESMTP id 1562774 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 21:51:03 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.94.166.122; envelope-from=MSmith982@mn.rr.com Received: from SMITH (c-75-73-187-161.hsd1.mn.comcast.net [75.73.187.161]) by ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kAE2oF3Z003666 for ; Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:50:21 -0600 (CST) X-Original-Message-Id: <200611140250.kAE2oF3Z003666@ms-smtp-02.rdc-kc.rr.com> From: "Mike Smith" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Lancair down in Georgia X-Original-Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:50:06 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01C70765.56B6A450" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: AccHNVCVN3GAQ88SRBKOVmlaAv+xcQAYTPSA X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C70765.56B6A450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hamid, I am not here to nitpick semantics on stating a particular fact or concern other than it seems to me there have been higher rate of unexplained engine failures (stoppages for whatever reason) in turbine powered IVs than piston IVs. I had always thought the turbines would be more reliable. I recall somewhere in the cobwebs of my mind the in-flight shut down rate of a turbine engine is 1 in every 135,000 flight hours in commercial operations. I have thought about upgrading to a turbine for that very reason. I think a reasonable failure definition is its working then its not and that wasn't part of the flight plan. Michael Smith _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Hamid A. Wasti Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:07 AM To: Lancair Mailing List Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair down in Georgia Mike Smith wrote: >I didn't say Walters failures. What is said was it seemed like there were a disproportionate crash rate among turbine powered IVs. Mike, I am quoting the following from your original post (with my emphasis) to refresh your memory: Regards, Hamid Mike Smith wrote: Listers, It seems to me there have been a disproportionate number of unexplained turbine engine failures that have resulted in wrecked airplanes, lost lives, and heartaches. I thought they had the edge in reliability. Is there a common thread in the install? I can think of enough crashes that suggest maybe there is more safety in a standard piston install. Michael Smith -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/lml/ ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C70765.56B6A450 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hamid,

 

I am not here to nitpick semantics = on stating a particular fact or concern other than it seems to me there = have been higher rate of unexplained engine failures (stoppages for whatever = reason) in turbine powered IVs than piston IVs.  I had always thought the = turbines would be more reliable.  I recall somewhere in the cobwebs of my = mind the in-flight shut down rate of a turbine engine is 1 in every 135,000 flight hours in commercial operations.  I have thought about upgrading to a turbine = for that very reason.

 

I think a reasonable failure = definition is its working then its not and that wasn’t part of the flight = plan.

 

Michael = Smith

 

 

 

From: Lancair Mailing = List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Hamid A. Wasti
Sent: Monday, November = 13, 2006 9:07 AM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: = Lancair down in Georgia

 

Mike Smith wrote:
>I didn’t say = Walters failures.  What is said was it seemed like there were a = disproportionate crash rate among turbine powered IVs.

Mike,

I am quoting the following from your original post (with my emphasis) to refresh your memory:

Regards,

Hamid

Mike Smith wrote:

Listers,<= o:p>

 

It seems to me there have been a = disproportionate number of unexplained = turbine engine failures that have = resulted in wrecked airplanes, lost lives, and heartaches.  I thought they had = the edge in reliability.  Is there a common thread in the = install?  I can think of enough crashes that suggest maybe there is more safety in a = standard piston install.

 

Michael = Smith

 

 

 

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