Joe,
People try to sell spoilers for every aeronautical problem and for
some it is a good addition, but with the yaw instability in the LIV you
can see the problem just looking at similar airplanes. You notice that
most airplanes with the amount of horsepower that the LIV has have
bigger vertical stabilizers and/ or a longer moment arm (more distance
between the vertical stabilizer and CG. My area of interest in College
was low speed aerodynamics (below the sound barrier) one of the rules
of thumb in aeronautical engineering is power is destabilizing. So you
take a small stab and add a lot of power the outcome is very
predictable.
Additionally, this makes for problems with big power change as well
an airplane that does not want to maintain yaw stability. The big power
changes can be the most serious problems as a high speed abrupt loss of
power the airplane well develop a very significant yaw, I would not let
it go, but LIVPT acts like it would go sideways in the air at Vne.
Plus this instability adds significantly to stall control problems.
Now all of that said I have done a great deal of directional
control flight testing for Piper and others and maybe incorrectly we
tried VG's and it did not add significantly to the yaw stability. They
did seem to improve rudder control with full application below 1.15 of
stall, which is not a problem in the LIV. The LIV does not have a
control problem but a lot of people do not realize that control and
stability are two different things and are only slightly related.
Anything that improves the handling qualities of an airplane I am in
favor but in the case of VG's, on some airplanes they can be helpful at
and close to the stall, but other than that they are really miniature
speed brakes. One of the reasons that the LIV performs so well is that
it is really clean (low drag), look at speed brakes extended and you
can see the resemblance to VG's. Every airplane that I have tested
with and without a significant number of VG's goes slower with VG's and
this makes sense.
There is no known case of VG's effectively adding wing area.
They are just a way to reenergize the boundary layer at high angles of
attack and in some high speed applications they can help stabilize the
standing mach wave as you approach the speed of sound. If VG's would
improve or effectively increase control surface size you would see most
airplanes with VG's on the Vertical and Horizontal Stabs. Stability
generally is not improved with VG's but sometimes control authority is
improved
Finally I have flown several airplanes with an added ventral fin
and yaw stability problems are really improved. I have not flown their
VG installation so I cannot speak directly to that potential solution.
Jack Webb
L360, LIV
AeroSpace Engineer BSAE
FAA Designated Check airman for C421, C404 & C310
ATP, CFI Airplanes & Instruments, Multi, & Sea
Numerous Jet Type Ratings
Experienced Experimental Test Pilot both multi and single engine
aircraft
Former Chief Engineering Test Pilot for a Major Manufacturer
Chairman Turning Point of Paulding County
Ohio
Joseph Trepicone wrote:
Clark and Jack,
I just spoke with Chris
Skoppe regarding the Lancair’s
stability in yaw.
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