X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2006 13:53:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.9) with ESMTP id 1085211 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:21:38 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.68; envelope-from=skipslater@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=RH1Rc6b5kTaGCGa+fJWRhzJ16lxxUTxITMvlxj31UuO7nebPQbAblHgPZio9QD34; h=Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [66.55.16.10] (helo=Skip) by smtpauth08.mail.atl.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1FZgwu-0000xY-F4 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:20:52 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <004c01c66b44$4e851310$3207470a@Skip> Reply-To: "Skip Slater" From: "Skip Slater" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] AOA X-Original-Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 21:20:06 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-ELNK-Trace: cbee950bdf563876c8ad50643b1069f8239a348a220c26093d9edf848ab5a5bb71800b9aeccddb3e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.55.16.10 John, Without getting into a debate about dogfighting which is irrelevent to Lancairs and the LML, here's where we're caught up: You said, "What I don't buy is that it should be used as the primary way to determine if you are about to stall." To a point, I agree with that. My point is that a properly calibrated AOA, by giving you a warning that you're approaching a stall, will absolutely help you avoid entering one exactly the same way a stall warning does. I'm not in any way suggesting that it takes the place of stall training or testing your plane to be able to recognize the onset of a stall. But to downplay the value of an AOA in a civilian airplane is shortsighted. My airline now has AOA displayed in the cockpits of our newest Boeing aircraft and do simulator training in recoveries from windshear and some unusual attitudes as well as terrain avoidance recoveries using it as our primary reference for extracting maximum lift from our planes. These aren't tactical jets either, but AOA is just as valuable to me in my ES as it is in the airliners I fly. Ultimately, it's up to each builder to choose whether or not to put an AOA in their plane. I advocate them to anyone who asks and cringe when I hear them pooh-pooh'd by non-believers. As a Naval aviator yourself, I'm surprised that you don't advocate them as much as I do. Skip Slater