X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.58.236] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0.9) with HTTP id 1075218 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:03:10 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Fuel Transfer/ Maximum Fuel Imbalance Tolerances To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0.9 Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:03:10 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <175557b90604200144p14930485v61ea18aa7ebc5a28@mail.gmail.com> References: <175557b90604200144p14930485v61ea18aa7ebc5a28@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Clark Baker" : >>>>Robert M. Simon writes: Pillar Point just announced that Facet changed the design on their pumps, the controller no longer functions, and they see no fix for the incompatibility. It works with the transfer pump in my GalStar but if that pump goes then so does the automatic feature of the PP.<<< I just spoke to Dennis at Pillar Point and he stated: "I don't think the 40105, 40106 or 40108 line of pumps have changed, so those should continue to work." The GlaStar uses the 40171 pump, which has both a check valve and an anti siphon valve. The pump in my Lancair 360 is a 40106 (supplied by Kit Components) and has no check or anti siphon valves. Kit Components (Lancair) also sells the 40108 pump, which appears to differ only in using AN-6 versus 1/8" NPT fittings. 1. Is anyone *successfully* using a *recently manufactured * 40106 or 40108 pump with the Pillar Point Fuel transfer system? Below is how to identify the *new* series of *40171* pump (full article from the GlaStar flyer attached). It turns out that in February 2004 and until November/December 2004, Facet made a change to the 40171 line of pumps. This change replaced the oscillator circuit in the pump with a timer circuit. This change completely neutralizes the auto-shutoff function of the XFR because, with the timer, there is virtually *no* change in pump frequency between fuel and air. Further, the current frequency falls outside the "fuel" range so the XFR shuts the pump off. The pumps that have this change have a date code stamped on the mounting tab of B04 through L04 (and maybe some M04). Another indicator of the timer-style pump is the *absence* of a rivet on the underside of the pump body. 2. Has anyone tested or knowledgable with how much fuel imbalance a LNC2 can be flow with in an emergency so one can calculate "worse case" fuel system failure scenarios for those of us without crossfeed systems? Some time ago, I tested (down to approach speeds) flying with a full left tank full (21g) and the right tank pumped down to about 1/2 full with an empty passenger seat. Regards, Clark Baker LNC2 360, 660hrs An Alert to GlaStar & Sportsman Builders Dennis Douglas Pillar Point Avionics I need to inform the GlaStar & Sportsman builder community about a recently identified problem that may affect those who have purchased the Pillar Point Avionics XFR-J Fuel Pump Controller who are flying with the XFR, and those who are still building their airplanes. Of particular concern here is the Facet 40171 found in the GlaStar, Sportsman, and a fair number of other aircraft. The 40171 is necessary for the GlaStar and Sportsman because it has two-way checking that inhibits the flow of fuel unless the pump is running. Aircraft with both the auxiliary and main tanks in the wing need this pump to prevent aux fuel from flowing into the main tank and potentially overflowing the main tank. Here’s the story: Background. Since 1998, Pillar Point Avionics has been manufacturing and selling the PPAv XFR line of fuel pump controllers. The XFRs operate a number of the Facet solid-state pumps such as the 40171, 40105, 40106, 40108, and others. These pumps operate by means of a magnetically operated piston. When energized, the pump’s piston is pulled forward which “pushes” fuel; when the piston reaches the end of its stroke, a switch contact is opened, the pump is de-energized, and a spring returns the piston to its resting position which closes the contact re-energizing the pump and the process is repeated. The current waveform looks like a real ugly square wave and the frequency, or period, of the waveform depends on whether fuel or air is being pumped. While the XFR line has gone through several improvements over the years, the basic operation of the XFR has remained the same: the controller measures the period of the current pulses and, through a threshold value stored in the microprocessor memory, determines if the measured period corresponds to fuel or air. If a period falling on the “air” side of the threshold is detected, the XFR shuts off the pump. While there was considerable temperature variation of both the “fuel’ and “air” pumping periods, it was possible to pick threshold values clearly and repeatably separating “air” and “fuel” ranges. The Problem Arises. Recently, we learned from two customers that the XFR was shutting off prematurely. After going through an extensive series of checks and replacements with the first customer, I contacted the engineer at Purolator/Facet responsible for the 40171 line of pumps. It turns out that in February 2004 and until November/December 2004, Facet made a change to the 40171 line of pumps. This change replaced the oscillator circuit in the pump with a timer circuit. This change completely neutralizes the auto-shutoff function of the XFR because, with the timer, there is virtually no change in pump frequency between fuel and air. Further, the current frequency falls outside the “fuel” range so the XFR shuts the pump off. The pumps that have this change have a date code stamped on the mounting tab of B04 through L04 (and maybe some M04). Another indicator of the timer-style pump is the absence of a rivet on the underside of the pump body. In December 2004 (date code M04), Facet reverted to its oscillator configuration but changed the oscillator and (apparently) some of the internal mechanisms. Our tests have shown that these newer pumps have large and unstable frequency variability. So large, in fact, that the XFR’s auto-shutoff operating principle cannot be applied to these pumps because the fuel and air frequency families have significant overlap. (The controller does, however, retain its pumping capability in the Timed mode.) Note that we are not implying the changes made by Facet have anything to do with the quality of the Facet product; only that the changes affect the way our controller operates the pump. Since Pillar Point Avionics cannot influence Facet’s designs, and since the recent changes to the 40171 preclude proper auto-shutoff operation of the XFR-J, the Facet changes spell the end of the XFR-J product line. Kaput. “The End” of a business line. The Scope of the Problem. Builders caught with this problem include those who recently purchased their kits and were supplied the newer pumps, and those who might have an older kit but who are doing the aux tank upgrade and have recently purchased the pumps. If you are in this group, check the date code on your pumps. Look for the model number stamped on one mounting tab and the date code on the other tab. If your pumps have a date code of B04 or later (C04, D04…A05, B05…etc.), you are in the affected group. Also included are the folks flying with the XFR-J…hundreds of us are in this group. One day, one of our 40171s will wear out and the XFR-J won’t operate the replacement pump(s). If you are in this latter group, don’t become alarmed. First of all, the XFR-J will still operate in the Timed mode (a 5-minute transfer of about 2 to 2.5 gallons of fuel.). Second, the pumps typically have a long life so there is no reason to think that the problem will bite you tomorrow or next week, next year or even next decade, so long as you avoid losing lubrication by pumping air. The Solution. While PPAv has decided to terminate the XFR-J line (and eventually the XFR-K line, also), a solution is available. Two solutions, actually, and maybe three, so don’t “get your knickers in a twist”. The primary solution will replace the XFR-J with the soon-to-be-released XFR-SA and installing a soon-to-be-released UFS-T sensor at the input (or outlet) to each pump. The XFR-SA will have exactly the same footprint as the XFR-J and –K so panel installation will be simple and direct. The UFS-T sensor will require that 3 wires be brought from each sensor to the XFR-SA and connected there. The XFR-SA will provide the electrical power to the UFS-T so no extra power wiring is needed. The XFR-SA will operate just as the XFR-J, with an automatic shutoff mode and a timed mode, and will retain the automatic pump fault detection capabilities (no current pulses detected/uncommanded pump operation). The advantage of this configuration is that—even while GlaStar and Sportsman builders will still need the 40171 pump—the pump characteristics no longer enter into the equation and virtually any pump can be controlled with the XFR-SA and UFS-Ts. The UFS-T is an in-line low fuel sensor similar to our present UFS. The UFS-T will mount at the inlet or outlet of the fuel pump using a (PPAv-supplied) stainless steel nipple. The XFR-SA/UFS-T solution will be particularly attractive to builders who have already cut holes in their panel for the XFR, for those wanting to transfer fuel in discrete quantities (for lateral load balancing, for example), and for those who want the XFR to automatically shut off the fuel pumps upon reaching an end-of-fuel condition and thus reduce the dry-running wear and tear on their fuel pumps which can accelerate the failure of those pumps. A second solution is the use of the UFS-T together with the IND switch/indicator. The UFS-T/IND combination will utilize builder-supplied toggle switches to start and stop the pumps. The pilot manually starts the transfer pumps. When the end-of-fuel condition is sensed, the UFS-T signals that condition to the pilot via the IND. The pilot turns off the pumps and then acknowledges and clears the “aux tank empty” alarm by pressing the IND switch. We are also considering offering a related alternative wherein the IND switch/indicator will be replaced by an identically appearing version with a push-on push-off switch, which eliminates the need for additional toggle switches. Either of these two options facilitates the aux fuel transfer independent of the pump used for the transfers. The Cost. PPAv expects that the XFR-SA-KIT (XFR-SA plus 2 UFS-Ts and hardware) will cost $380, while the UFS-T-KIT (2 UFS-Ts, 2 INDs and hardware) will cost $270. We will have a better idea of the actual costs after we’ve manufactured the initial quantity and the prices may change. The XFR-SA-KIT and the UFS-T-KIT should be available around the middle of May. Check our website, HYPERLINK "http://www.ppavioncs.com" www.ppavioncs.com for availability. Replacement Policy. Builders who are caught in the middle of this problem will want to know what PPAv is going to do to help them. We’ve decided that we’ll exchange the XFR-J with the XFR-SA at no cost to the builder, and we’ll offer the UFS-T to builders at our cost (estimated now—early March 2006—to be around $50 each) plus shipping. We’ll extend this offer for a period of 1-year, ending on March 31st, 2007. Builders in the United States wanting to take advantage of this offer should ship us their XFR-J together with a check for $105 (the cost of two UFS-Ts plus a nominal $5 shipping charge). We’ll modify the builder’s controller to an –SA type and return it to them along with 2 UFS-Ts, 2 SS nipples, and installation hardware and instructions. Non-US builders should send their controllers to us with a check in US Funds for $100 plus the shipping cost to their destination. A Third Option. PPAv is evaluating the benefit of a fully-integrated fuel level and fuel management system. In this system, up to four capacitance probes would be installed, with one probe in each main tank and one probe in each aux tank. The probe wires and the fuel pump power wiring would be connected to a fuel gauge controller and display system. For the GlaStar and Sportsman, where the tank configuration and geometry is well-known, the controller may be pre-calibrated, with pre-set trip levels. (The pilot would be allowed to change the calibration and trip level pre-sets, if desired.) In operation, the pilot will have a high-quality display of the fuel quantity in each of the four tanks. When a main tank quantity reaches the low-level trip point, the controller will activate the (left or right) transfer pump and increase the main tank quantity to the high-level trip point, at which time it will turn the transfer pump off. If the aux tank is empty or if it is emptied during a transfer operation, the controller will turn the transfer pump off and indicate that condition to the pilot. Manual operation of the fuel transfer pumps would also be available and the controller would have 4, 0 to 5V outputs for input to an EFIS or engine monitor. More information about this option will be made available if we decide there’s sufficient interest. I hope Flyer readers understand that Pillar Point Avionics was blind-sided by the Facet pump changes and that we are doing all we can to “make it right” with our customers. If you have questions or comments about the above, please call me at 541-350-2683 or to email me at sales@ppavionics.com.