X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:02:25 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.5) with ESMTP id 907240 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:00:10 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r6.3.) id q.100.2305d1a6 (57341) for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:59:20 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <100.2305d1a6.30e804d8@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:59:20 EST Subject: Paul's Notes X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1136044760" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5300 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1136044760 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 12/30/2005 10:15:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, elippse@sbcglobal.net writes: I know this isn't e-bay, but I know the exact formula for the timing of Klaus' PLASMA I,II,III NA, HC, and Turbo! What am I bid? In a chemically-correct mixture, it only requires 0.5 milli-Joule to obtain ignition. PLASMA's put out in excess of 120mJ. PLASMA l&III have multiple, opposite polarity sparks that really excite the molecules in the intervening gases which then get very hot, hence the name PLASMA. Notice: this spark is a very light violet color, almost transparent rather than blue, and a piece of paper put in the gap will ignite! In all this discussion of timing and thetaPP, no one has mentioned flame-front propagation speed vs charge density. Litton Industries and Hughes had D-Sub connectors on their approved list for spacecraft. 'Course, gold only, not tinned! Now for a request. I fly a 235 with an O-235, 9.7:1 CR, putting out about 123 SL hp at 2800 rpm, with dual PLASMA I ignitions and an ELIPPSE three-blade prop with 76" effective pitch. I have extended wing tips which add about 2 sq. ft. and 20" span. I get 1550 ft/min ROC at SL, 2420 rpm, 110mph IAS, 1350 lb. At 1000' dalt, 2950 rpm I get 214 mph TAS; at 10,000' dalt, 2800 rpm, I get 201 mph TAS, and at 14,500' dalt, 2750 rpm, I get 198 mph TAS at 5.8 gph. These numbers were all obtained with a highly-calibrated pitot-static system, true OAT, and a GPS. I would like to get comparative data from those of you who fly 235's. Thanks! Paul Paul, 1. $.02 2. OK! 3. I like violet. Too bad I can't use paper, its cheaper than gas. 4. Sure they have, just with different words. Among other ways, timing at RPM and altitude. 5. Spacecraft just don't shake like a four-cylinder engine. 6. If I had a 235, I'd share the info with ya for something in exchange. See #1. Grayhawk PS Glad to se you joined the ever changing _http://www.frappr.com/lancair_ (http://www.frappr.com/lancair) -------------------------------1136044760 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 12/30/2005 10:15:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 elippse@sbcglobal.net writes:

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I know this isn't e-bay, but I know the exact form= ula=20 for the timing of Klaus' PLASMA I,II,III NA, HC, and Turbo! What am I=20 bid?

In a chemically-correct mixture, it only requires=20= 0.5=20 milli-Joule to obtain ignition. PLASMA's put out in excess of=20 120mJ.

PLASMA l&III have multiple, opposite polarity=20= sparks=20 that really excite the molecules in the intervening gases which=20 then get very hot, hence the name PLASMA. Notice: this spark is=20= a=20 very light violet color, almost transparent rather than blue, and a p= iece=20 of paper put in the gap will ignite!

In all this discussion of timing and thetaPP, no o= ne=20 has mentioned flame-front propagation speed vs charge=20 density.

Litton Industries and Hughes had D-Sub connectors on their approved list for spacecraft.=20 'Course, gold only, not tinned!

Now for a request. I fly a 235=20= with=20 an O-235, 9.7:1 CR, putting out about 123 SL hp at 2800 rpm, with dual PLA= SMA=20 I ignitions and an ELIPPSE three-blade prop with 76" effective pitch. I ha= ve=20 extended wing tips which add about 2 sq. ft. and 20" span. I get 1550 ft/m= in=20 ROC at SL, 2420 rpm, 110mph IAS, 1350 lb. At 1000' dalt, 2950 rpm I g= et=20 214 mph TAS; at 10,000' dalt, 2800 rpm, I get 201 mph TAS, and at 14,500'=20 dalt, 2750 rpm, I get 198 mph TAS at 5.8 gph. These numbers were all obtai= ned=20 with a highly-calibrated pitot-static system, true OAT, and a GPS. I=20 would like to get comparative data from those of you who fly 235's.=20 Thanks! Paul

Paul,

1. $.02

2. OK!

3. I like violet. Too bad I can't use paper, its cheaper tha= n=20 gas.

4. Sure they have, just with different words. Among other ways, timing=20= at=20 RPM and altitude.

5. Spacecraft just don't shake like a four-cylinder engine.

6. If I had a 235, I'd share the info with ya for something in=20 exchange. See #1.

Grayhawk

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