X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [69.171.52.140] (account rob HELO [144.54.59.5]) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTPSA id 687316 for lml@lancair.net; Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:44:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4314EF5D.7080402@Logan.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:44:29 -0400 From: Rob Logan User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lml@lancair.net Subject: [Fwd: RE: [LML] Re: Legacy Training/Stalls] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: One more opinion. I fly my Legacy at 120 in the pattern, 100 over the fence and use very little breaking on a 2800' runway. I have over 300 hours in Legacies, over 1,000 hours in IVP's. You can cross the fence slower but why? Unless you have to make a short field landing why reduce your safety margin. It is not a matter of ego when it comes to flying down final it is a matter of safety and of airplane control. An abrupt control input could ruin your whole day not to mention that a go-around is a lot less fun in landing configuration at 80-85 than it is at 100. If you can fly and hold 100, then you can fly and hold 85, but why take the risks. Have you ever experienced wind shear when you just knew there wasn't any? Too me, normal across the fence is 95 to 100, any slower is adding unnecessary risk unless the runway conditions demand it. It's interesting that even at these blistering speeds on final somehow we manage to touch down at the same speed as anyone flying slower. So I don't know how you would use more break pads unless you want to stop in a very short distance or you just like to ride the breaks for fun. The wing on the Legacy is not the wing on a 172. It isn't as kind when changing the angle of attack rapidly at slow speeds. That's my take. Joe > 100 KIAS seems to be very typical during training, and I also agree > that it is high. I flew my first 20 or so hours like this and was > spending WAAAAAAY too much time floating in the flare (though good for