X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [66.94.81.250] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 5.0c1) with HTTP id 684808 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:13:19 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: Lancair Accident Statistics To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.0c1 Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:13:19 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB60721981B9@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> References: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB60721981B9@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "Halle, John" : It is hard to extrapolate from statistics without studying them carefully, which I don't claim to have done. That said, my impression is that it is pretty clear from the kind of accidents that Lancair pilots are having that the reason the statistics, and particularly the fatal statistics, are worse for Lancairs than for other piston singles is predominantly bad judgement. When I was thinking about buying a Legacy, I looked pretty carefully at any evidence I could find that design or construction flaws contributed to the high accident rate and I must say that I could not then and cannot now find such evidence. There are very few accidents attributable to design flaws and, while construction glitches have been contributing factors in accidents (e.g. faulty construction of gas tanks) the ultimate cause was usually still pilot error (trying to stretch a VERY long X-country leg.) The lack of design/construction flaws is particularly reassuring in the case of a/c built more or less as Lancair designed them. The rate climbs when builders try radical new things (mostly on engines) but that is to be expected and is obviously a choice that the rest of us are free not to make. Similarly, it seems to me that the learning curve accidents are no more prevalent than they are for most piston singles. Yes, Lancairs are higher performance but it really doesn't matter all that much and the typical low-time Lanciar pilot is generally more experienced than the typical low-time 172 driver. I keep hearing about how the accident rate is high because of the retrac feature but we don't seem to have a lot of inadvertent gear up accidents. That leaves judgment and the record here is simply awful. We don't do adequate preflights; we accept non-functioning or malfunctioning equipment that other pilots don't (or can't legally) accept. We fly in conditions that exceed our skill limits and sometimes the a/c performance limits. These accidents are 100% avoidable without having to trade off performance in any respect. We just have to recognize that general aviation aircraft are a fascinating hobby and can also be a very efficient form of transportation. They are not a dependable way of getting anywhere and it is not uncommon for the situation to require a decision to remain with both feet firmly planted on the ground. What distinguishes Lancair pilots from other GA pilots (and their accident rate from the general GA accident rate) is the frequency with which we demonstrate that we are unable to make these decisions prudently. The insurance companies know this well. (Unlike me, they are very good at analyzing data.) When Avemco pulled out of the high performance experimental market (while I was building and much to my consternation) I spent about an hour on the phone with a Senior VP. What he knew was scary. Not only did he have a firm grasp of the statistics, he could name the pilots in each case and knew what their background was. When I suggested that formal training might help he pointed out to me that two of the fatal Lancair accidents (both the result of poor judgment) had involved people hired to do Lancair training. (There have been two more since that time.) To quote from a famous comic strip: "We have met the enemy and he is us."