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From: "Ron Galbraith" <cfi@instructor.net>
Subject: flying into Thunderstorms

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I posted a picture of a line of thunderstorms a couple of days ago that
was displayed on an ARTCC scope.   I just wanted to relate to you all
what else happened that night.  Just after I posted that picture I was
working the sector just East of that line of weather when I took a
handoff  from another sector of a C421 at FL180.   I asked him if he knew
about the weather ahead that he was headed right for the middle of, and
he indicated that he didn't know about it, but that he was listening to
other A/C talk about it.   He had departed about 30 minutes earlier, so
he could not possibly have gotten a weather briefing.  I urged him to
deviate or land and wait it out on numerous occasions.  I issued him my
required weather statement several times, and told him that all aircraft
had been deviating way South of his course.  At one point he was pretty
arrogant and stated that he had on board weather radar and that he would
be fine.  This is exactly the problem we are having with most of the
weather related accidents.   This fellow has probably read all the NTSB
reports, and says "that will never happen to me".   Once again, he did
indeed make it through the storm further re-enforcing his belief that it
is ok for him to fly into known bad weather.   The only way he will ever
change his thinking is with risk management training.   There were at
least 40 airline jets that would not get close to that weather, and
numerous bizjets that diverted even further away from it, all within the
time I was talking to the C421.   I guess he really needed to get to COS
that night.    Yes, it was also night.=20

Ron Galbraith

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<P>I posted a picture of a line of thunderstorms a couple of days ago that =
was displayed on an ARTCC scope.&nbsp;&nbsp; I just wanted to relate to you=
 all what else happened that night.&nbsp; Just after I posted that picture =
I was working the sector just East of that line of weather when I took a ha=
ndoff&nbsp; from another sector of a C421 at FL180.&nbsp;&nbsp; I asked him=
 if he knew about the weather ahead that he was headed right for the middle=
 of, and he indicated that he didn't know about it, but that he was listeni=
ng to other A/C talk about it.&nbsp;&nbsp; He had departed about 30 minutes=
 earlier, so he could not possibly have gotten a weather briefing.&nbsp; I =
urged him to deviate or land and wait it out on numerous occasions.&nbsp; I=
 issued him my required weather statement several times, and told him that =
all aircraft had been deviating way South of his course.&nbsp; At one point=
 he was pretty arrogant and stated that he had on board weather radar and t=
hat he would be fine.&nbsp; This is exactly the problem we are having with =
most of the weather related accidents.&nbsp;&nbsp; This fellow has probably=
 read all the NTSB reports, and says "that will never happen to me".&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Once again, he did indeed make it through the storm further re-enforc=
ing his belief that it is ok for him to fly into known bad weather.&nbsp;&n=
bsp; The only way he will ever change his thinking is with risk management =
training.&nbsp;&nbsp; There were at least 40 airline jets that would not ge=
t close to that weather, and numerous bizjets that diverted even further aw=
ay from it, all within the time I was talking to the C421.&nbsp;&nbsp; I gu=
ess he really needed to get to COS that night.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Yes, it wa=
s also night.&nbsp; </P>
<P>Ron Galbraith</P><BR>

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