X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:45:26 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from relay-2.mail.nethere.net ([66.63.128.162] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 680579 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 14:26:12 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.63.128.162; envelope-from=bnn@nethere.com Received: from scan-2.mail.nethere.net (scan-2.mail [66.63.128.133]) by relay-2.mail.nethere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28AF53C679 for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta-2.mail.nethere.net by scan-2.mail.nethere.net with LMTP id 75676-24; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:25:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Dell-P4-2GHz.nethere.com (o1-dialup-69-85-154-47.rev.o1.com [69.85.154.47]) by mta-2.mail.nethere.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B40D87F7B for ; Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:25:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-Id: <6.2.1.2.0.20050824111405.01d393c0@pop3.nethere.net> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 6.2.1.2 X-Original-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:24:41 -0700 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" From: Guy Buchanan Subject: TS Speed versus Spin Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed I remember a long thread a while ago on Lancair stall/spin behavior. My recollection was that it was inadvisable to intentionally spin a Lancair, and stall practice was risky and to be treated to the greatest respect. Up comes the discussion on TS and the obvious recommendation is to slow to below maneuvering speed. This keeps the wings on, but raises the risk of uncontrolled spinning. I wonder how a spinning aircraft handles TS loads? Perhaps that's why the FAA is so adamant that certified aircraft be either spin "resistant" or spin "recoverable". Guy Buchanan References: "I don't remember anyone addressing the benefits of going to maneuvering speed as soon as you encounter sever turbulence to try and mitigate the results. " "What this means to me is that pushing the envelope is a riskier proposition in a Lancair than it is in, for example, a citabria, edge or other airplane ... For this reason, while I would gladly go out any time and do a stall series in a 172, my experience in my Legacy consists of an approach to stall, done with Don Goetz on board as a part of initial flight testing. Even with ACM experience under my belt, I not only don't stall my Legacy, I don't come close at any time at which I am not within ten feet of a runway. It's not because the a/c is too high performance for me; it's because I don't know for sure what it will do and neither does anyone else." Guy