X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:49:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from gateway1.stoel.com ([198.36.178.141] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0c1) with ESMTP id 678495 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 21:26:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com (unknown [172.16.103.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com (Firewall Mailer Daemon) with ESMTP id EFE80E9DB2 for ; Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.103.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:25:27 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: Single Pilot IFR X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 18:25:26 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB60721981A5@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Single Pilot IFR Thread-Index: AcWngYpZBiVGHSJXSk+HNd8prnKymg== From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Aug 2005 01:25:27.0028 (UTC) FILETIME=[8ABE6340:01C5A781] This is going to sound like I am against "training". I am not. In = fact, I am all for it IF it is not relied on to do more than it can do. = The sad fact is that lack of training is not what kills most GA pilots. = Lack of judgment is. After five years in the Lancair community, I think = I can say that, on balance, the airplanes are not a problem (they don't = let us down any more often than any other single engine piston plane.) = Also on balance, training is not a problem (the average Lancair pilot = is, by quite a wide margin, more skilled and better informed than the = average GA pilot.) That leaves judgment and recent history suggests = that, in that category, Lancair pilots suffer in comparison with their = peers in the certified world. As a non-engineer in a community = disproportionately populated with engineers, let me suggest that part of = the poor judgment problem may be attributable to a mindset that assumes = that an understanding of data solves any problem. If you just know and = apply the maneuvering speed mantra when you find yourself in a = thunderstorm, everything will be fine. If you just have data for = useable fuel at every conceivable angle of attack, you won't run out of = gas. If you just know the exact (to the knot) best glide airspeed, you = can survive losing the only engine you got. We are quick to cogratulate = people who have demonstrated these skills and to condemn those who seem = lacking. I have seen literally hundreds of discussions in this forum = advancing that point of view and I think it by and large misses the = point. The point that actually makes a difference is the point that = gets you to turn around when you are not dead certain that there are no = CBs in front of you. It is that you fill up your gas tank any time = there is the slightest doubt in your mind as to what you fuel state is. = It is that you do whatever maintenance is required so that obvious = warning signs from your engine are not ignored. If you do those things, = hopefully, you will not have to demonstrate the mastery of data and = awesome manual dexterity that we seem so much to admire. I wish there was a course in judgment but I don't know of one. In the = absence of such a course, what I hope for every one of us (and our wives = and families who depend on us not to screw up) is that we try to work on = making better judgments. Turning back if there is a problem. Topping = the tanks even if it is not necessary. Adding ten miles to the flight = plan rather than fly for 500 miles straight down the cascades/sierras. = None of these things require any data or any flying skill. They are = just common sense. The more common it gets, the more of us will show up = at the fly-in each September. -----Original Message----- From: Marvin Kaye [mailto:marv@lancaironline.net] Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2005 5:52 AM Subject: Re: Single Pilot IFR Posted for "Giffen A Marr" : Totally agree that flying into a thunderstorm is akin to committing = suicide. The facts are that we have had 3 or 4 Lancair IV-P's which have done = it inadvertently and been spit out in pieces. I don't remember anyone addressing the benefits of going to maneuvering speed as soon as you encounter sever turbulence to try and mitigate the results. Perhaps = the results would have been the same, but at least you have the highest = margin you can get at that speed. If you continue at your cruise speed, we = know what the results are. There are a lot of us that have not experienced = sever turbulence in our aircraft, but training to get to your maneuvering = speed ASAP, in my opinion, should be emphasized. I know that you are along = for the ride, that the primary goal is to maintain a level attitude and accept whatever altitude variation you get, and try to not exceed your = maneuvering airspeed or stall the aircraft. =20 Giff Marr LIV-P 40%