X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 15:34:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.tsnci.com ([65.78.205.250] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3.4) with ESMTP id 1001697 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 12:38:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.78.205.250; envelope-from=WeinsweigD@tsnci.com Received: from TSNC_DOM-MTA by mail.tsnci.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:22:36 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.3 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 11:21:57 -0400 From: "Dr. Weinsweig" X-Original-To: Subject: [LML] Re: IV-P Prop and De-ice Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline i went with the avia prop because it was designed to work with the walter(avia and walter are somehow financially related) and especially because it was about 10 grand less than the hartzell as i would have to buy a prop governor for the hartzell and it came with the avia/walter combo. the hope is that the slinger ring will provide icing protection for the windshield as well as the inlets and fuselage. time will tell but tks is a proven product. downside is the messy heavy fluid and lack of prefabbed tanks to hold the fluid for our lancairs. our builder BRIAN ALLEY designed a beautiful very functional though slightly complicated and labor intensive custom tank system using space mainly in the wing root fairings(thereby minimizing cg issues) as well as a small filler tank in the front floor of the baggage compartment. time will tell total capacity but it should be somewhere in the 4+ gallon range which i believe is more than cirrrus has. though a potentially fairly heavy sytem, imho as of 6/14/05 this is the most reliable proven system for anti/deicing(other than not flying when there are clouds in the sky). obviously the goal is to avoid icing but i feel safer knowing that there is a plan b if absolutely needed. david weinsweig ivp propjet n750dw reserved >>> cberland@systems3.net 6/14/2005 10:41 AM >>> david weinsweig said: finally i decided to go with tks as well as the slinger ring which lancair supplied for my avia prop. it's all installed and looks beautiful. now all we gots to do is fly!! It sounds like very few IV-P's have ice protection. Let me throw one out and I would like to here what's good or bad. IMS system on the wings and tail. Appears to have minimal affect on wing dynamics. TKS system on prop. Eliminates electrical slip ring. I do not know exactly how the TKS slinger ring works but I would think it would also keep air inlet clear and be more reliable than electric boots. Also use on windshield. Disadvantage is, how small can fluid reservoir be and not run out? I'm getting a headache changing my mind. However, I'm almost positive they all have props. What's the best prop? Opinion?? Why? Craig Berland