Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #29335
From: <MikeEasley@aol.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] body work on wings
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2005 10:04:43 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Pat,
 
You'll probably get as many answers as there are people, but I think all would agree, any depression will show.  And we all would agree, it really doesn't affect the flying characteristics, only the aesthetics.
 
I used the 3M rigid board with 80 grit.  Buy extra paper.  On an ES wing I used a new sheet each time I did a wing.  The paper gets old quickly and you tend to rub the primer, not cut through it.  With fresh paper you don't push as hard and you won't warp the rigid board.
 
Keep the board along the length of the wing.  All Lancair wings are linear from root to tip.  So at the leading edge you're parallel to the leading edge, working in a "fan pattern" you described to the trailing edge.  I went diagonally at approximately 45 degrees upper left to lower right the full length of the wing and then upper right to lower left all the way back.  So the board is always straight down the wing, and the motion is always a 45 degree angle.  Roll the rigid board over the leading edge by moving at a 45 degree angle.  That way you won't cause any flat spots.
 
I sanded like that until I had removed all the guide coat OR saw the skin showing through.  Resist the temptation to give a couple extra passes to try to get the last bit of guide coat off in one area.  The primers sands much faster than the fiberglass, so you will create an uneven surface is the skin is showing.  Also resist the temptation to push really hard in one area to get the last bit of guide coat.  If you push hard you'll warp the 3M board and create a depression.  If it's low, it's low!
 
When I finished sanding I still had a few spots that were low, I re-primed by hitting the low spots first, then another light coat over the whole wing, then over the low spots again.  Be sure to let the primer flash off between coats or it may stay soft underneath.
 
When to use micro or another filler?  When to use primer?  Again, you'll have as many opinions as builders.  Micro is good to contour, especially on the fuselage over seams, etc.  It's almost too much on a pre-molded Lancair wing.  I used micro to fill the obvious low spots on my wings before I primed.  Don't try to get the micro perfect, you'll sand the skin too much trying the feather it out perfectly.  The micro will get you close enough for the primer to do the rest of the work.  I used some lightweight body filler very sparingly where the micro was too much and the primer wasn't enough.  Sometimes trying to do a really low spot with primer can be tedious to say the least.
 
Some guys will recommend a really long sanding board, but I personally think the 3M board will bridge the low areas adequately and give an overall smooth surface.
 
Going from 80 grit to 220 for the painter is also critical.  Don't just buzz the surface with a 6" DA.  You could mess up your nice straight wing that way.  At this point you aren't trying to get rid of low spots, they're gone, you just don't want to put any new ones in!
 
A year went by between my 80 "fly in primer" paint job to my final prep for painting.  I did another primer coat, but I treated that coat like it was real paint, really smooth, two even coats.  I guide coated again.  I didn't use the 3M long board, but I used an 18" rigid board, still on the 45 degree angle and started with 120.  Then to 220.  I changed diagonals, one direction for the 120, the other for the 220.  That's a good way to make sure you are getting rid of the 120 scratches with the 220.  It took very little sanding to get rid of the guide coat and have a very smooth wing.  This step is more about spotting the tiny flaws than about getting the wing straight.  You'll see the tiny nick in the trailing edge, or the pinhole you didn't see before.
 
One trick is to really take a good look at your wing when the primer is still wet and shiny.  You can spot any waves really easily with the temporary glossy paint job.  You shouldn't have any, but it's nice to know before you put on the real paint.
 
My painter uses a single stage glossy paint for the base coat.  He says it covers better, and it's a last chance to check for flaws.  He scuffs it before he paints the accent colors (with base coat) and before he clear coats.  In the past, he has gone back and fixed some minor body work flaws and repainted with the glossy white.  After the clear coat, you can't see where it's been touched up.
 
Mike Easley
ES
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