Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:34:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 852582 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Apr 2005 09:08:12 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.205; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from worldwinds ([68.66.194.194]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.04.01 201-2131-118-101-20041129) with SMTP id <20050402140722.IMYR5402.mta11.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Sat, 2 Apr 2005 09:07:22 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Re: Oil viscosity X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2005 05:46:35 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 I previously posted: <> Jeff replied: <> As I specified, it was just my opinion - I had no data available. As for over-pressuring the oil filter, there is usually a red-line oil pressure (certified aircraft) and as long as the oil pressure limit is not exceeded (does everyone look at oil pressure during runup and the takeoff roll?) there shouldn't be a problem with that. As for hurting the engine, the last two Cessnas I owned stated that takeoff was okay as soon as the engine would "accept throttle." Since they didn't include the data in the POH, that might also be just their opinion. Aircraft engines have such a large displacement, small starter and battery and high oil viscosity (compared to cars) that really high oil viscosity will essentially prevent the engine from cranking and starting. Another anecdote: Standby generating systems using large diesel engines always start and immediately run at rated rpm and full load, regardless of the initial temperature and the engines are typically the same ones as used for all other applications. Doesn't seem to bother them. As for mixing brands and viscosities, it has been "accepted practice" to do that for maybe 50 years - oops, I don't have the data to show that ALL brands can be mixed with ANY brand of oil. One can always err on the conservative side and take the time to warm the oil, avoid shock cooling, run only one brand and type of oil, etc and it will usually at least do no harm. Once I was riding with a friend on short final at OSH. We kept getting closer to the Mooney ahead of us and when I could count the rivets on the tail I asked him if it wouldn't be a good idea to slow down - he replied that he was trying to avoid "shock-cooling the engine." One has to keep one's priorities straight. As for me I worry more about fouling the plugs from long ground operation than damage to the engine due to cold oil. It's a tradeoff. Gary Casey