Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 01:34:23 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d22.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.208] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c3) with ESMTP id 829444 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:11:29 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.144.208; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d22.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v37_r5.33.) id q.1a2.306fa2ee (16930) for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:10:31 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1a2.306fa2ee.2f7b80b7@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 23:10:31 EST Subject: Re: [LML] ICE X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1112155831" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5000 -------------------------------1112155831 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 3/29/2005 8:39:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, 5zq@cox.net writes: It was kind of horn shaped in that it extended above and below the LE with a concave forward face. On the approach I did NOT extend gear or flaps, carried FULL power, airspeed down to120 knots (as slow as I dared) and still sinking 500 fpm. Extended gear and flaps over the threshold and landed with full power. The ice did not come off. Our airplanes are fast and efficient because of the superb aerodynamics designed into them. When you take that away with ice, you're left with an underpowered brick that will NOT remain aloft. The airplane remained controllable but the performance was absoutely gone. I'm happy to be here to give this report to you. Don't do this! Egads Bill - the double devil's horn of ice (and I don't mean for the single malt adult beverage). Some of us have had experience with light rime and, like bugs, only caused an increase in drag. You, however, have earned another set of test pilot wings. Glad you resolved it successfully and thanks for the info - info I hope none of us have to use because of a similar situation. Scott Krueger -------------------------------1112155831 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 3/29/2005 8:39:16 A.M. Central Standard Time,=20 5zq@cox.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>It was=20 kind of horn shaped in that it extended above and
below the LE with a=20 concave forward face. On the approach I did NOT extend
gear or flaps,=20 carried FULL power, airspeed down to120 knots (as slow as I
dared) and= =20 still sinking 500 fpm.  Extended gear and flaps over the
threshol= d=20 and landed with full power. The ice did not come off.

Our airplanes= are=20 fast and efficient because of the superb aerodynamics
designed into th= em.=20 When you take that away with ice, you're left with an
underpowered bri= ck=20 that will NOT remain aloft. The airplane remained
controllable but the= =20 performance was absoutely gone. I'm happy to be here to
give this repo= rt=20 to you. Don't do this!

Egads Bill - the double devil's horn of ice (and I don't mean for the=20 single malt adult beverage).  Some of us have had experience with light= =20 rime and, like bugs, only caused an increase in drag.  You, however, ha= ve=20 earned another set of test pilot wings.
 
Glad you resolved it successfully and thanks for the info - info I hope= =20 none of us have to use because of a similar situation.
 
Scott Krueger
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