Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 21:56:55 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net ([167.206.5.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 759998 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:27:42 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=167.206.5.75; envelope-from=Adam@ValidationPartners.com Received: from ValidationPartners.com (ool-18bb9fce.dyn.optonline.net [24.187.159.206]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.25 (built Mar 3 2004)) with ESMTP id <0ICH0030KVZF5Y@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:26:14 -0500 (EST) X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 20:26:24 -0500 From: Adam Molny Subject: Re: FADEC Rough idle explanation X-Original-To: Lancair X-Original-Message-id: <421FD040.306E43A0@ValidationPartners.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en-gb] (Win98; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en Just kidding: I find it amusing that some our our listers have taken up the Donald Rumsfeld school of self-question and answer: Do I want a system with good BSFC? You bet I do! Should it have fail-safe capabilities? Wouldn't fly without it! Where can I get one? Why I just happen to know of a company... But seriously: I am 100% in agreement that accurate spark timing under all operating conditions is critical to efficient and reliable engine operation. It sounds like the GAMI system implements all of today's engine wisdom, and adds bells and whistles that will provide real benefit to pilots. However good spark is only half the solution. Fuel metering is the other half of the equation. The TCM fuel injection has some serious drawbacks. These engines are notoriously hard to start, and lots of bandwidth has been expended discussing various hot and cold starting techniques. Invariably, these techniques involve lots and lots of priming, followed by lots and lots of cranking. The previous owner of my engine had to replace the starter adapter and boost pump within the first 100 hours for just this reason. We all know the negative consequences of over-priming: excess fuel washes oil off the cylinder walls, accelerating ring wear and diluting the oil in the sump. Too much fuel can cause hydraulic lock bad enough to bend conrods and cause other internal engine damage. But over-priming is so commonplace that TCM has required us to install a drainage system specifically to handle this problem. Am I the only one who finds it crazy to install sniffle valves in our 21st century airplanes? SNIFFLE VALVES! We have somehow been conditioned to accept that it is normal for our engines to dump raw fuel on the ramp during startup! I want good ram air for my engine, but apparently it can't be too good. As Rob Logan found out, if manifold pressure is too high fuel blows back out the fuel injector screens and onto the engine. This forces us to add yet more plumbing to equalize pressure. Although there are techniques for leaning, no human can possibly get it right every single time, or constantly adjust the mixture during every phase of flight. Both TCM and GAMI offer position-tuned fuel injectors, but no mechanical system can ever match a computer-controlled closed-loop system that individually adjusts the mixture to every cylinder on every power stroke. To be fair, the FADEC only operates in the closed-loop feedback mode when operating below 75% power. Above that, the system switches to best power and uses a pre-determined fuel flow map that is based on MAP, air temperature, throttle postion, and RPM. For normally-aspirated engines, 75% power can be maintained up to about 8000ft. As you can see, I am driven as much by what new systems can do as by what's wrong with today's engines. The only real solution is a system that manages both fuel and spark. The only system out there is FADEC. If anyone knows of another EFI system, I am all ears. Sincerely, Adam Molny Legacy #151