Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:00:13 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.3c2) with ESMTP id 752569 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:31:33 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.205; envelope-from=glcasey@adelphia.net Received: from worldwinds ([70.32.213.236]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with SMTP id <20050221143042.GKFJ998.mta11.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Mon, 21 Feb 2005 09:30:42 -0500 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: Re: FADEC Rough idle explanation X-Original-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2005 06:27:30 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 <: Want to try to define a list of what you think will be "better" and why with FADEC than it will be with a well managed conventional engine?>> I'm not an expert in Continental's version of FADEC, but I think if one looked at the generic possibilities of a "good" FADEC system it would go something like this: Hp ? - no difference as the spark timing of a conventional system is probably about right for best power and the mixture was set for cooling/detonation so nothing can be done there (not not always true). The Lycomings have a venturi that restricts the flow, so a speed-density system would have slight advantage there (up to 3%). BSFC ? - I think there would be an advantage to the FADEC, but only at high altitudes/low MAP when the standard system can't advance the spark. CHT ? - no significant difference that I can think of. Price ? - Any FADEC system will almost certainly cost more. Maybe quite a bit more. TBO ? - There might be no difference as while the electronics can be expected to last forever the injectors won't. The conventional system can be rebuilt any number of times. Weight ? - If a distributorless system is used the FADEC will almost certainly weigh more as multiple ignition coils probably weigh more than one. Other ? - The primary advantage of a FADEC system should be idle quality (title of present thread not withstanding) and starting, as well as reduced pilot workload. How important are those things? Gary Casey