Return-Path: Sender: "Marvin Kaye" To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 19:12:17 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta10.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 656288 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 02 Feb 2005 18:50:57 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.202; envelope-from=dfs155@adelphia.net Received: from f3g6s4 ([67.22.49.202]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.04 201-2131-111-106-20040729) with SMTP id <20050202235026.BFJR21507.mta10.adelphia.net@f3g6s4> for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 18:50:26 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <006401c50982$090d6b40$ca311643@losaca.adelphia.net> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Re: trailing edge static wicks/radio noise X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:50:54 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Gerard O Connell asked: Anyone any ideas as to why I get transmit noise when airborne only? Gerard, a little more data, please. When on the ground and getting no noise, is that with the engine/alternotor running or not? Here's some things to consider: Your radio is making it's highest current demand during transmit. If the alternator is on line and being turned at a high enough RPM for normal output (e.g., in flight), it will most likely be the predominant source of the current since it's output voltage is, of necessity, set slightly higher than the battery voltage when under load. On the ground, when the alternator isn't turning (or turning too slowly to provide much output) the battery will supply the load. Because of this, the effective current return paths could be different depending on whether the battery or the alternator is supplying the load. Try turning off the alternator in flight to see if anything changes. Secondly, by their nature, an alternator's rectifier bridge will produce some amount of ripple and RF noise. The battery usually surpresses the ripple voltage quite well (the battery acts like a humongous filter capacitor), however, this noise voltage is only maximally surpressed right at the battery - the further you get from the battery (on the alternator/battery wiring) for your radio power and ground, the more chance for this noise being injected into your comm circuits. So take a hard look at your wiring, both power and ground, for your radio(s) with the above in mind. You might try a dedicated ground direct to the negative battery terminal for the affected unit. The above is just an observation. I certainly don't pretend to understand all the odd-ball things that can arise when we all wire our airplanes differently. Case in point: I had always had a terrible noise intrude when transmitting on the lower frequencies (like typical ground control, say 121.7 for instance) that seemed totally random - some times it would happen and some times not. Took me a month or more to notice that it only happened if I had unplugged the second head-set from it's jacks. Plugged in - no noise, unplugged - YUK! Never did figure that one out so I just never fly without the other head-set installed - go figure. Good luck, Dan Schaefer Early LNC2