Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.165.10] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.2.1) with HTTP id 412859 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:31:53 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WHAT IS KILLING LANCAIR PILOTS? To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.2.1 Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 21:31:53 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <008501c49b7d$ac3d6ae0$6401a8c0@axs> References: <008501c49b7d$ac3d6ae0$6401a8c0@axs> X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "terrence o'neill" : Lee, Interesting data. Take a look at www.oneillairplane.com info on unintentional stalls i compiled after (laboriously) reading some 800 fatal accident reports. Let me know what you think. (I'm not selling the AOAs now. But the stall info I think is applicable.) Tell me what the groups and percentages represent in your spreadsheet. I would suggest that with a plane like the LNC2 with very light elevator, it is easy to accidentally pull the wing to a stall AOA. Per the CAFE report on L320 N9BF, clean, the STALL at 1G is at about 1775 lbs is at 71 knots, 2Gs at 98 knots, 3Gs at 121 knots. Without an AOA the pilot cannot SEE how close he is flying his wing to its AOA. T.