Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:53:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [198.36.178.141] (HELO stoel.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.1) with ESMTP id 400730 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:39:56 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.141; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com ([172.16.1.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com with ESMTP id <334139>; Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:42:25 -0700 Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.2.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:39:19 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: The older I get the better I was X-Original-Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2004 09:39:19 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB6072198041@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: lml Digest #957 Thread-Index: AcSUwbbgUuhrYhaqSf2TxrCbqciUBwAM6KQQ From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Return-Path: JJHALLE@stoel.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Sep 2004 16:39:19.0230 (UTC) FILETIME=[38B3EDE0:01C494F9] I learned formation flying as a "nasal radiator". Like everything else = in training, it was challenging and pretty scary at first. After a = while, it was just part of the drill (at least most of the time.) The = first time you ever drove a car on a crowded freeway, I bet you felt the = same way and for most of the same reasons. The human mind is amazingly = adaptable. Some take advantage of it and some never learn. Try not to = fly formation with the latter. The conditions also matter. Night = formation in a combat zone gets the attention of even the most jaded = ace. Most of the time, flying formation is a lot more routine. There's = not much magic to it and, ex-miliatry pilots' egos notwithstanding, it = can actually be learned and performed quite well by miserable civilians. = FWIW, as a student Navy pilot, I once almost ran my instructor into a = midair. He didn't like it much either and was unrestrained in saying = so. Even military pilots occasionally err. If you wouldn't fly in the = guy's cockpit, you definitely don't want to fly on his wing. You also = want to take it slow, work hard to learn and BRIEF EVERYTHING IN = ADVANCE. Unlike most military formation (and the T-34 training manual), = Lancair formation involves quite restricted visual communication for = anything other than left echalon. You need to have a radio link at = least for backup. On second thought, forget hand signals. They're fine = in a combat zone but hopefully, SAMs will not be your problem. I would love to be a part of any effort assuming I can get there from = Oregon. Anyone up for Redmond?