Posted for "Greg Tanner" <gtanner@bendcable.com>:

 This is becoming a "My dick is bigger than yours" debate. Between this and
 Rick Schrameck using the forum to attack Joe Bartels (warranted or not), I'm
 about to stop participating in the lml. There is always the option of the
 delete button, which I use most diligently, but there is so much wasted
 banter about which so few of us care about. Maybe I presume too much while
 speaking for the others but this appears to be acceptable of late. I would
 only ask we keep this building, and or flying related. Opinions are welcome,
 arguments just for the sake of arguing are not. I'm not the moderator, owner
 or moderator of this forum, just a lowly 235 builder that enjoys reading
 about other peoples experiences in building and flying the same kinds of
 aircraft. My wallet isn't 1/4 as thick as some of yours and my participation
 may not affect anyone in the slightest but I'm sure you've all seen what
 happens when you throw a rock into a pool of water.
 
 Greg Tanner
 
 the opinions stated are mine solely but may be shred by others