Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 15:08:20 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta13.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2) with ESMTP id 382472 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:59:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.44; envelope-from=dfs155@adelphia.net Received: from f3g6s4 ([67.22.49.202]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040828185852.BSKL24693.mta13.adelphia.net@f3g6s4> for ; Sat, 28 Aug 2004 14:58:52 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <005b01c48d31$3ba68820$ca311643@losaca.adelphia.net> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Re: 320 Elevator/Horizontal Stab X-Original-Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 12:00:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Scott wrote: "I believe the flat aileron trailing edge is to supress "aileron snatch" and/or flutter while maintaining control effectivess............" Scott, back when I built my 235 ('86 to '93), the reason given at the time for the blunt edge of the ailerons was to eliminate a slight dead-band in roll response vs stick input noticed on one of Lance's early prototypes. No mention of "aileron snatch" or flutter elimination was ever made (at least back then) and I believe the 320 aileron system is much like the early 235. In fact, flutter should not be an issue assuming proper construction of the aileron system, e.g., solid no-slop control circuit and proper counterbalancing. (Mine are just a couple percent "over-balanced" after paint and dirt). Must work as I have absolutely no dead-band in roll input, and, during my flight tests, I opened the flight envelope to about 10% over VNE (VERY carefully, I must add) to be sure that flutter wasn't lurking just over red-line. It wasn't, and in fact, I've never felt the dreaded "buzz" signaling an incipient flutter. Of course, since my 235 has never flown with any other kind of aileron, I have no way of knowing what it would have been like with sharp trailing edges. One of the things I like about my ailerons is how they stiffen up with increasing airspeed - a good thing (IMHO) that MAY be attributable to the blunt trailing edges. Since the airfoil of the horizontal is quite different than the wing, the same requirements do not seem to be imposed on the elevator - like all (most?) LNC2's, my elevator has a sharp trailing edge and NO discernable dead-band. I don't know about you, but I like to refer to my 235 as "responsive" in pitch - meaning that if you have to sneeze, it's best to take your hand off the stick! Dan Schaefer