Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #25024
From: George Braly <gwbraly@gami.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 18:19:50 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

 


From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of PTACKABURY@aol.com
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 12:09 PM
To: Lancair Mailing List
Subject: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP

 

Hey George:  Regards your baffle business for LIVs--you have made the claim that

"every single IV-P's I have seen were very poorly baffled and the fuel set up was improper"

many times.  And of course you always add that

"I took one of these "stock"  IV-P's and fixed
it.  It took a fair amount of time and effort, and a lot of experience to know
what to do and how".

    OK, so you and Gami are the smartest bunch in the world, but to suggest that you know a secret that would provide all of us dummies building LIVs a better engine installation and never share the details, well it has become tiring.  If you want to sell this magic, offer it as a product.  If you want to be real helpful, provide a drawing. 

    Speaking as one who continues to refine my LIV engine installation, the Lancair provided baffle kit seems a well thought out, good fitting collection of bits of heavy gauge aluminum.  Of course as is the case with all mysteries of air cooled engines and cowling drag, it probably could be improved upon.  So while my grinders and tin cutters are handy, let me know what to do.  Please do not wait until I publish my performance numbers on this list and then tell me I did it wrong.

 

Paul Tackabury, LIV in primer

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Paul,

 

I confess to having written that message in language that was harsher than I would prefer.

 

Also, keep in mind that I begged the owner of the plane that I fixed NOT to get me involved with that project.

 

I said I didn’t have time.

 

He said, “There are lots of L IVP’s out there that need fixing.”

 

I said, yes, but they are all homebuilt aircraft,  and with only a few exceptions,  the owners will simply copy anything I try to do or build,  and so there is no point in getting distracted from my other certified activities that pay the bills.

 

He said,  “ how long will it take.”  I said I don’t know,  but if I tried to do it,  it would take at least a month or two to work it in with everything else.

 

He said, “… how much.”   I said I don’t know.   The owner then basically said,  “… here are the keys and I will write you a blank check. Please proceed, and let me know when you get it finished.”

 

After it was done,  successfully,   somebody on the forum posted up a message and said, in effect,  “heck, I can buy six new cylinders to replace the red hot cylinders that I am running with now,  for what that cost.”     He had a point,  if you want to treat the machinery that way from now on.

 

 

I can’t tell you what to do,  because I don’t know what you have already done and what your existing configuration is.

 

We are not the “smartest bunch in the world.”    I appreciate the sentiment if it was sincere and if it was meant to be sarcastic,  that’s OK, because I probably deserved it for the blunt manner in which I posted up the message.

 

OTOH,  I have spent the better part of the last eight years and a whole lot of money studying this particular subject. 

 

What I do know is that there is absolutely NO REASON why all of these planes should not perform as well as the plane that we  modified two years ago.  

 

The point to my message was to try to impress upon the owners of these wonderful airplanes that there is a world of  unrealized performance in these airplanes, and they should not accept the status quo for  the indefinite future.    

  

Regards,  George

 

 

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