Return-Path: Received: from imo20.mx.aol.com ([198.81.17.10]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:55:54 -0400 Received: from N295VV@aol.com (88) by imo20.mx.aol.com (IMOv20) id kTPDa02691 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:57:46 -0400 (EDT) From: N295VV@aol.com Message-ID: <344dd432.24869258@aol.com> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 09:57:44 EDT Subject: Re:Preliminary Observations from a Recent Crash To: lancair.list@olsusa.com X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> From: n295vv Last nite I saw first hand video and still shots of a very recent NON LANCAIR crash scene involving an experimental. The govt has not released any findings because it is very recent, but i have some observations..... Firstly, the Hartzell prop and hub is one strong piece of machinery. I watched as a skid loader dropped a chain to the bottom of a four foot hole which was approx 8 x 8 diameter. At the bottom of the hole was the engine, just barely seen, covered with dirt. The loader proceeded to pull from the bottom an object covered with mud, which became apparent to be the engine. As it emerged, the props could be seen folded back around the cylinders, almost intact. One cylinder had been cleaved by the still intact prop, and the hub was intact. One very tough prop...... Secondly, the trim actuator had been run out to full down trim. This coupled with the very large trim tab on this particular plane was being looked at closely. The pilot was found to have a 100% heart blockage, but a second pilot was in the cockpit, and the full down trim situation was being looked at as the major contributing factor to the disabled pilot. The stick had micro switches on the grip which run out the trim by the slightest touch.... Which brings me to my conclusion. Be sure your trim servos have adjustable pots inline so you can slow down trim action. If tapping your trim buttons gives you huge movement, they are too fast and can dump you. If you have stick grips with sensitive buttons, AS I DO, inadvertant gripping of the top of the stick in an emergency may change your life forever, and you may consider modifying them some way. I know this for a fact, for when I made my first flight in my IV, i did just such a thing, and ran my trim to full stop, just because I was unfamiliar with the stick and very tense. It almost dumped us, and my instructor recognised it, knocked my hand off the stick, and saved the plane and us. After the flight I made an aluminum collar to keep from sliding my hand up on the grip too far. I use it still today. But a disabled person leaning against the top of the grip, well...... I am going to rethink the whole assembly now and try to figure out some way to protect the buttons from inadvertant actuation. I do like the grip, and I would not like to substitute any other. A hinged cover, perhaps..... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html