Return-Path: Received: from iguana.ruralnet.net ([207.174.80.1]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-52269U2500L250S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 11:38:57 -0400 Received: from Pdjpryan.ruralnet.net (ppp1-95.ruralnet.net [207.174.80.125]) by iguana.ruralnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA25840; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <000e01beac45$0614cd20$7d50aecf@Pdjpryan.ruralnet.net> From: "DON & PAT RYAN" To: "Lynda Franz" , "Marv Kaye" Subject: SDR NG Cyl. Attch Failure Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:03:27 -0600 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Lancair 360, N15EG The phenolic block at the top of the nose gear tunnel has delaminated the fiber glass and raised up ca 3/32". This is the nose gear hydraulic cylinder attach point and the must be similar to those reported by George Shattuck, SDR 4/97 and the SDR on 5/98. I would like to hear how the failure fixes have worked. Geo reported that he repaired his with a steel strap in LNN issue #27. With no further info, I plan to round up the top of the tunnel with flox and use a 10 bid fiberglass overlay extending down the sides of the tunnel in a forward direction. Rounding the top should reduce the stresses at the edges of the phenolic and transfer the loads to the tunnel side walls? IMHO?. It would appear to me that this failure is from overextending the cylinder and NOT from landing stress?? Any comments from the engineeringly inclined?? Don Ryan [This problem has been discussed here and in the LNN as well several times and the typical cause of the failure has been that the nose gear actuating cylinder was not adjusted properly. The ends of the piston's travel must match the ends of the strut's travel. If the strut stops moving while there is still motion available to the piston, the piston will move to its stop and damage the mounting point. It does require the builder to fiddle with the cylinder and rod end a bit, but it's important that the travel is cylinder-limited and not strut-limited. If the strut stops moving while there's still travel avilable to the actuator piston, the only object remaining to absorb the load is the mounting point... not a good situation at all. If your installation will not allow you to adjust the rod end to effect this particular result, it is possible to contact the cylinder manufacturer and request a spacer that you'll have to install into the inside of the cylinder, which will limit its travel internally. This would add far less weight than would beefing up the attach point to take loads for which it wasn't designed, and would allow the system to operate as intended. Just my $0.02... alternating viewpoints are welcomed. ] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML homepage: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html