Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:11:21 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.169.125] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3155200 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 19:42:36 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:42:36 -0700 Received: from 63.157.8.5 by BAY3-DAV95.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 23:42:36 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [63.157.8.5] X-Originating-Email: [jghankins@msn.com] X-Sender: jghankins@msn.com From: "JIM HANKINS" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Flight Test of Lancair Turbine X-Original-Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 18:53:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C41E63.ED2A8980" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.00.0013.2101 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 18:53:20 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Apr 2004 23:42:36.0368 (UTC) FILETIME=[56336500:01C41E8C] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C41E63.ED2A8980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will probably be test flying my IVPTP in the next two weeks. I also, = am very interested! Jim Hankins ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Marshall Michaelian=20 To: Lancair Mailing List=20 Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 7:56 AM Subject: [LML] Re: Flight Test of Lancair Turbine Posted for "Jim Mememr" >: Hi Marshal! Glad you are ready to test fly! What airport are you = going to use? I haven't flown the L-4PT yet, but in regard to the stalls, I = believe that preliminary indications are that the last L-4PT that went down = was due to stalling the L-4PT about two months ago, now. You do not stall a Lear = jet only wait for the stick shaker. I would treat the L-4PT like a high performance Lear jet , but instead of looking for stall , look for the = best or lowest AOA speed while still flying. ( Angle of Attack) If you want = to know where I got my info, please contact me off-line, but I believe you = already know. Be careful and good luck! jim Memmer-L-4PT 85% = 408-771-8097cell I am of the same mind as you Jim about stalling the aircraft, but I = would sure like to hear from others who also did NOT test to the point = of stall or DID stall and are able to give the particulars. The Oakland = FSDO are looking very closely at the turbine installation and any data = which has been observed would help us all when it comes time to getting = our turbines certified in the experimental category. I'm still a few = months away from first flight (or should I say the test pilot's first = flight, not mine) and would encourage others on this forum who have = information to share their experiences and concerns.=20 Your point is well taken in flight testing to a max AOA while still = flying rather than waiting for an eminent or full stall. Marshall Michaelian ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C41E63.ED2A8980 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I will probably be test flying my IVPTP in the next two = weeks.  I=20 also, am very interested!
 
Jim Hankins
----- Original Message -----
From: Marshall Michaelian
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2004 = 7:56=20 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Flight Test = of Lancair=20 Turbine


Posted for "Jim Mememr" <jimmem@msn.com>:

  = Hi=20 Marshal!  Glad you are ready to test fly!  What airport are = you=20 going to
use? I haven't flown the L-4PT yet, but  in regard to = the=20 stalls, I believe
that preliminary indications are that the last = L-4PT that=20 went down was due to
stalling the L-4PT about two months ago, = now. =20 You do not stall a Lear jet
only wait for the stick shaker.  I = would=20 treat the L-4PT like a high
performance Lear jet , but instead of = looking=20 for stall , look for the best or
lowest AOA speed while still = flying. (=20 Angle of Attack)  If you want to know
where I got my info, = please=20 contact me off-line, but I believe you already
know.  Be = careful and=20 good luck!  jim Memmer-L-4PT 85% 408-771-8097cell

I am of the same mind as you Jim about stalling the = aircraft,=20 but I would sure like to hear from others who also did NOT test to the = point=20 of stall or DID stall and are able to give the particulars.  The = Oakland=20 FSDO are looking very closely at the turbine installation and any data = which=20 has been observed would help us all when it comes time to getting our = turbines=20 certified in the experimental category.  I'm still a few months = away from=20 first flight (or should I say the test pilot's first flight, not mine) = and=20 would encourage others on this forum who have information to share = their=20 experiences and concerns.

Your = point is well=20 taken in flight testing to a max AOA while still flying rather than = waiting=20 for an eminent or full stall.



Marshall=20 Michaelian

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