Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:56:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.202.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3153845 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 02:24:58 -0400 Received: from c1176431a (c-24-5-129-235.client.comcast.net[24.5.129.235]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc13) with SMTP id <20040409062458016003bvqfe>; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 06:24:58 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Marshall Michaelian" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: Flight Test of Lancair Turbine X-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 23:22:36 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01C41DC0.60BF69A0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C41DC0.60BF69A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Posted for "Jim Mememr" : Hi Marshal! Glad you are ready to test fly! What airport are you going to use? I haven't flown the L-4PT yet, but in regard to the stalls, I believe that preliminary indications are that the last L-4PT that went down was due to stalling the L-4PT about two months ago, now. You do not stall a Lear jet only wait for the stick shaker. I would treat the L-4PT like a high performance Lear jet , but instead of looking for stall , look for the best or lowest AOA speed while still flying. ( Angle of Attack) If you want to know where I got my info, please contact me off-line, but I believe you already know. Be careful and good luck! jim Memmer-L-4PT 85% 408-771-8097cell I am of the same mind as you Jim about stalling the aircraft, but I would sure like to hear from others who also did NOT test to the point of stall or DID stall and are able to give the particulars. The Oakland FSDO are looking very closely at the turbine installation and any data which has been observed would help us all when it comes time to getting our turbines certified in the experimental category. I'm still a few months away from first flight (or should I say the test pilot's first flight, not mine) and would encourage others on this forum who have information to share their experiences and concerns. Your point is well taken in flight testing to a max AOA while still flying rather than waiting for an eminent or full stall. Marshall Michaelian ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C41DC0.60BF69A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Posted for "Jim Mememr" = <jimmem@msn.com>:

  Hi=20 Marshal!  Glad you are ready to test fly!  What airport are = you going=20 to
use? I haven't flown the L-4PT yet, but  in regard to the = stalls, I=20 believe
that preliminary indications are that the last L-4PT that = went down=20 was due to
stalling the L-4PT about two months ago, now.  You do = not=20 stall a Lear jet
only wait for the stick shaker.  I would treat = the=20 L-4PT like a high
performance Lear jet , but instead of looking for = stall ,=20 look for the best or
lowest AOA speed while still flying. ( Angle of=20 Attack)  If you want to know
where I got my info, please contact = me=20 off-line, but I believe you already
know.  Be careful and good=20 luck!  jim Memmer-L-4PT 85% 408-771-8097cell

I=20 am of the same mind as you Jim about stalling the aircraft, but I would = sure=20 like to hear from others who also did NOT test to the point of stall or = DID=20 stall and are able to give the particulars.  The Oakland FSDO are = looking=20 very closely at the turbine installation and any data which has been = observed=20 would help us all when it comes time to getting our turbines certified = in the=20 experimental category.  I'm still a few months away from first = flight (or=20 should I say the test pilot's first flight, not mine) and would = encourage others=20 on this forum who have information to share their experiences and = concerns.=20

Your point = is well taken=20 in flight testing to a max AOA while still flying rather than waiting = for an=20 eminent or full stall.



Marshall Michaelian

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