Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 21:22:40 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.202.55] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3149721 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 06 Apr 2004 21:14:57 -0400 Received: from cc1860069a (pcp09040864pcs.rocsth01.mi.comcast.net[69.244.182.42]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004040701145101100s1f8ae>; Wed, 7 Apr 2004 01:14:51 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <017801c41c3d$57e7ac40$2ab6f445@rocsth01.mi.comcast.net> From: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Partial power loss - IMC - Redesign X-Original-Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:12:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Thanks for the responses guys. OK, so let's redesign the system. 1. One thought is to simply disconnect the scat tube from the air filter box in front of the number one cylinder. Block the filter opening so air no longer passes through it. Let the unattached scat tube suck in warm air underneath the cylinders. Provide a suitable screen so that nothing but air is sucked into the tube. I've had cooling trouble in the past with taking off using filtered air because the cooling air goes down the filter inlet instead of over the cylinders on that side. It's a noticeable CHT difference vs. taking off with ram air. With this alternative, air would be sucked from below the cylinders further improving cooling flow (right?). I also need to do the air flow calcs to see which way air will tend to flow in the scat tube at cruise, since I can't close it off (I can only close off ram air). 2. An alternative might be to install a spring loaded warm air door somewhere. But if I'm flying with the ram open and freeze the throttle body air sensor tubes somehow (do we know of any cases of this actually happening?) I will have to move the control to close the ram air off anyway. In which case would not simply drawing unfiltered are from the aforementioned scat tube be just as effective (and less work and small parts risk)? 3. I could move a larger filter box down behind the ram air opening and install a warm air door downstream of the filter. The goal would be to give up as little ram air pressure boost as possible. My air sensor (in the throttle body) is directly (line of sight) behind the ram air opening by about 12 inches. The current Y pipe is directly in front of that, leaving about a 3 inch gap to the cowl opening (which is bridged with scat tube). That setup is not easy to change. What operational restrictions would you impose on using ram air in such a setup? Is the risk just icing, in which case, like carb guys, we'd worry about moisture and a certain temp range? Bugs? There's four tubes there and blocking four tubes on a single flight is remote. If the point is, we need warm air, then I can do that very easily with number 1 above. Is anything else called for? Thanks for the help! Ed de Chazal