Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 08:19:26 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from rwcrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.198.39] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3138173 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 04:58:04 -0500 Received: from MJR (h000094c615c2.ne.client2.attbi.com[65.96.140.242]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <20040331095801015007j0hce>; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 09:58:01 +0000 X-Original-Message-ID: <000801c41707$8fb17c40$f28c6041@ne2.client2.attbi.com> From: "Mark Ravinski" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: mixing carbon and e-glass X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2004 05:04:30 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 -----Lets try another simple analogy. When you use graphite as an overlay to a glass based material it's like pulling on two ropes tied to the same post. Lets say each rope has a breaking strength of 100 lbs. as you start pulling, the graphite gets tight (it's stiffer) while the glass doesn't (it's more flexible). As you get to the breaking point of the carbon (100 lbs), the tension in the glass is much less, Lets say 50 lbs. As you increase the pull, the carbon will fail and then you will have the one glass rope left. What you have, is twice the weight ( two ropes) but only 50% more strength. If the two ropes had been bonded together with epoxy during this test, the shear stress between them would have been another problem. If the graphite rope were smaller than the glass rope, like using a smaller percentage in the layup, then the failure of the graphite would occur much earlier in the loading, (like under normal flight conditions.) This is a simple analogy and nothing in the aircraft is so simple. Mark Ravinski