Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 01:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta10.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.202] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b1) with ESMTP id 3132361 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:53:04 -0500 Received: from f3g6s4 ([69.166.116.94]) by mta10.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.08 201-253-122-130-108-20031117) with SMTP id <20040329025304.RARL15554.mta10.adelphia.net@f3g6s4> for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:53:04 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <002401c41539$755a7c40$5e74a645@losaca.adelphia.net> From: "Dan Schaefer" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: MT Electric Prop X-Original-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 18:56:39 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 In answer to Pete Cavitt's question about MT vs fixed pitch prop. Pete, I ran an Amar DeMuth prop with about the same dia. and pitch on my 235 very early on and later switched to the MT electric C/S unit and there are at least two things to say about it. First, A-DM props scare the heebies out of me as I've had two fail, one on the trip home from Redmond to LA that developed about an 8 in. crack 2/3 of the way to the tip and a second (the replacement) that failed catastrophically on take-off just at rotation. This one spontaneously lost most of it's rear lamination on one side. Fortunately, I had enough runway to stop with nothing worse than something only my laundry-man knows about but a few seconds later, I'd have been a statistic. From the shaking and the fact that the engine stopped immediately, it felt like I'd put a piston through the side of the engine. Second, with the Lancair's wide speed range, when I ordered my wood prop, I opted for a cruise-pitch (similar to yours, if I remember, 62 x 72) and could only make about 2350 RPM on the start of a take off run (at sea level). As you can imagine, this led to some "interesting" take-offs when the airplane was full and conditions weren't standard SL. I changed to the two-blade MT elec. C/S and see 2750 RPM in the same conditions (rated for 2800 continuous) and then set the cruise RPM to around 2530. Takeoffs immediately became a whole lot less exciting! Can't say that I saw a significant speed increases in cruise though there was some - maybe 5 Kts. During cruise conditions, the RPM stays where set quite well. There is one small caveat however but it's easy to get used to. To keep things as small as possible (and light too, I guess), the motor in the hub that controls the prop uses quite a large gear ratio so the pitch doesn't change as quickly as with a hydro unit. One learns quickly to go easy on the throttle on takeoffs and particularly during a touch and go or a go around or you will get ahead of the prop and get a momentary overspeed. During these events, one needs to ease the throttle in and pay attention to RPM. With my engine/prop combination, I take about 3 - 4 seconds to cob the throttle - other combinations may be different but I'll bet not by much. Dan Schaefer N235SP