Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:19:16 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b8) with ESMTP id 1740225 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:36:35 -0400 Received: from mta04ps.bigpond.com ([144.135.25.136]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 10:28:16 -0400 Received: from hostname ([144.135.25.84]) by mta04ps.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15 mta04ps Jul 16 2002 22:47:55) with SMTP id H2QR8U00.AFH for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2002 00:36:30 +1000 Received: from WTPP-p-203-54-48-203.prem.tmns.net.au ([203.54.48.203]) by psmam06.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V3.0n 110/12591317); 21 Sep 2002 00:36:30 X-Original-Message-ID: <00bb01c260b4$0c894e20$0e688a90@direcpc.com> From: "Fred Moreno" X-Original-To: "Lancair list" Subject: Ram Air and carburetors X-Original-Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:43:12 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Jeff Peterson wrote in part: "But the problem I have is that the hole in the carb throat is about the size of the scoop entrance. Doesn't the air have to speed back up again to get through the carb? So the pressure falls and we are back where we started." Correct. The flow accelerates through the carburetor venturi creating a low pressure region that "sucks" fuel into the air stream. The venturi is a convenient way of measuring air flow and inducting fuel in the correct proportions. (But you have to adjust the mixture to compensate for variations in air density since the venturi measures volumetric flow rate, not mass flow rate.) So why not let the air flow at this high velocity from inlet to venturi? Two reasons. First, if the velocity leading up to the carburetor was very high, the pressure losses along the way would be very high, especially going around bends. And you could forget using an air cleaner which requires very low air velocity to minimize pressure losses. The idea of gentle bends, smooth surfaces and low velocity in the ducting is to minimize friction losses and allow the highest possible pressure in the intake manifold when the throttle butterfly is fully opened. Second, the carburetor needs two pressures to work right: a relatively high pressure (approximately ambient) at the carburetor inlet, and a low pressure in the venturi. The high pressure is communicated to the float bowl and sets the air pressure in the float bowl above the fuel. This higher pressure drives the fuel toward the low pressure in the venturi with the fuel passing through a fuel jet which controls the fuel flow. Upon arriving at the venturi, the carb uses the high velocity in the venturi to shear the fuel into tiny droplets (atomization) to promote combustion in the cylinders. In theory one could maximize performance (maximize manifold pressure) by sticking the carburetor forward with the inlet jutting out of the cowl directly into the air stream, but doing so would cause monkey business with the intake manifold and the engine would ingest dirt, rocks, birds, rain, and anything else you might find out there. Jet engines do just this, attempting to gain the maximum ram pressure at the face of the first stage of the compressor or at the face of the fan by sticking the engine directly into the face of the oncoming flow. Look at a fighter aircraft with a long curving intake duct to see where lots of taxpayer money got spent tweaking the duct for maximum performance. The same basic principles are at work with hugely greater air flows, so the price of friction loss is much greater than with our dinky little piston engines. Hope this helps. Fred Moreno