Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:53:15 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com ([207.46.181.81] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b7) with ESMTP id 1734640 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:08:18 -0400 Received: from fred2000 ([68.130.37.6]) by cpimssmtpu05.email.msn.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905); Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:07:14 -0700 From: "Fred Egli" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: RE: [LML] IV-P Flap retraction speed. X-Original-Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:09:05 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: X-Original-Return-Path: fvegli@msn.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Sep 2002 20:07:14.0923 (UTC) FILETIME=[A68C1BB0:01C25DBC] Walt, --Regarding the concern by several LIV folks that the flaps retract too fast for a safe go-around, I would like to suggest that one simply not raise the flaps at that time. I have made perhaps 8-10 go arounds in my normally-aspirated LIV including one on my first visit to OSH in '98 and one at Truckee CA (5900' ASL) at about 2950 Lbs. The procedure is: 1)full throttle, 2)right rudder as needed (plenty), and 3)climb out and go around. Gear and flaps remain extended fully untila comfortable airspeed and climb rate are established. At that point, flaps can be raised, if desired. The LIV does not climb like usual under these conditions, but even my non-turbo'd LIV does better than a Cessna 172 under these conditions. Any discussion? Fred Egli LIV N1228E