Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:13:29 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net ([24.50.78.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b6) with ESMTP id 1684499 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:00:14 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by smtprelay3.dc3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H0J5O809.N06 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:00:08 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: automotive parts X-Original-Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:58:56 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 <> Good comments - I find the discussion always interesting as some people think that nothing but airplane parts belong in airplanes. Parts is parts and they don't know where they were "intended" to go. Some car parts are lots better than airplane parts and a lot of the time it just doesn't make any difference. I look at a lot of the fasteners on plastic airplanes - a high-strength #6 or #8 screw is countersunk directly into the plastic. How strong would that screw have to make sure it pulls out of the plastic before it breaks? Almost anything would work. Sheet-metal screws with Tinnerman nuts in an airplane? Lots of them in my Cessna and none of them have come loose yet. Trick is really to know when the low-dollar approach can work and when to use the good stuff. That's why I use all aircraft fasteners - cheaper to do that than to carefully evaluate each application. For example, a typical access panel would be much better off, in my opinion, to be held in place with clip-on Tinnerman nuts and sheet-metal screws than the anchor nuts and machine screws. Problem is you have to put a recess in the flange for the nut so it is easier to use the anchor nut even though it is a lot more work to install and to replace if it wears out, which it will. To use a 12-volt automotive relay wouldn't give me pause at all. Gary Casey ES project