Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 06:59:19 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-r07.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.103] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0b6) with ESMTP id 1683609 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:58:51 -0400 Received: from StarAerospace@aol.com by imo-r07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v33.5.) id q.96.2a8655d5 (1320) for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:58:47 -0400 (EDT) From: StarAerospace@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <96.2a8655d5.2a821116@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 01:58:46 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Infinity stick grips in IV-P X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 124 << How have you IV-P wizzards attached your Infinity stick grips to the Lancair IV stick? I see no attach hole where I can drill to install a bolt thru the stick. >> I had to fix this on a Lancair IVP recently. In fact, I had to fix a dozen build shop goofs. Not the least of them was the fact that the grips and their aluminum adapters were attached with nothing more substantial than glue and a little friction. They turned easily in my hand. The fix was to drill through the aluminum adapter and chrome moly tube and install a .25" roll pin. The grip screws through the adapter. Our local FAA guy looked at the shear strength of the tubing and declared this a good fix. Other gripes: 1. Forward armrest cutouts were insufficient for the stick wiring. Cut for clearance. Copilot's trim switch wires were cut by poor grip assembly technique and shorted out trim system. The infinity grips are quite nice, but be a little careful with all those wires in that tight space. I filed a .5 x .25" channel through the grip to route them without pinching or chafing. 2. Pilot's armrest pad eliminated 30% of aileron travel and 10% of elevator travel. Relieved and resewed. 3. Wire runs down side panel chafed in numerous areas where they were wrapped over sharp edges and around the control rods. NO, SPIROWRAP IS NOT SUFFICIENT. The sharp edges present in many locations slip between the wraps. Wiring must be stood off from all sharp edges with clamps and all sharp edges covered with cat track. 4. The cable runs through the wing root and aft pressure bulkhead were made with no protection and sealed with RTV. These are now edge protected and sealed with pro-seal. RTV does not adhere to carbon and resin. 5. The wing root fairings were beautifully smoothed with copious amounts of filler. Too bad this filer has the thermal expansion of fiberglass and the carbon has almost none. Large cracks and chunks falling off due to thermal expansion induced shear. No fix for this... 6. (my personal favorite!) The upholstery installer drilled an attachment hole straight through the flux valve and strobe wires. No excess cable length was available at either end of the run so this resulted in splicing in a whole section instead of just cutting out the damage and splicing the existing wires. This Lancair IVP had a 9 interior, a 6 avionics installation, and a 5 construction. I've seen much, much worse, but it is my less than humble opinion that this aircraft requires at least a 7 to an 8 on a 10 scale to be reliable and safe. There are too many "gotchas" hiding in that airframe for marginal work. Eric