Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.2) with ESMTP id 1031487 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 04:21:21 -0500 Received: from imo-m03.mx.aol.com ([64.12.136.6]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:42:17 -0500 Received: from Klusmanp@aol.com by imo-m03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.26.) id k.118.b8d302c (4395) for ; Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:44:03 -0500 (EST) From: Klusmanp@aol.com Message-ID: <118.b8d302c.2984fbb3@aol.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 01:44:03 EST Subject: Re: Rudder Balance, IV To: lancair.list@olsusa.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> In a message dated 1/26/02 12:08:32 PM EST, RWolf99@aol.com writes: << Thanks, Walter, but even with the fancy degree I know next to nothing about flutter. However, I can see how gravity affects flutter when it can exert a hinge moment, as it can with a horizontal control surface (ailerons and elevator). What I don't understand is how it affects the rudder. I don't understand why the rudder needs to be counterbalanced at all. But I could be dead wrong about that, and "dead" is the operative word here. >> I have a degree - but one that is not very fancy at all. I had no formal coursework in flutter but have read about it and had an opportunity to talk to someone who is an expert on the subject. As I understand it, counterbalancing a control surface is required to "de-couple" the control surface (i.e., aileron) from the main surface (i.e., wing). This is a fancy way of saying you don't want the control surface be part of a mechanism that can contribute to flutter. Imagine we are in steady, level flight. Imagine the wing experiences a gust that causes it to move up. Given that there is some flexibility in the control system or even the aileron itself, the aileron will tend to do one of two things depending upon its balance with respect to its hingeline. If the aileron is "tail heavy" it will want to deflect "down". This downward deflection will increase the lift of the upward moving wing and will tend to add to the total amount of "up" deflection that the wing will see. As the wing gets to its max up-bending position and starts on its way "down" the deflection of the aileron will reverse and help contribute to driving the wing down. It is easy to see that the aileron is adding energy to this dynamic condition. If the aileron is "nose heavy" it will want to deflect "up" as the wing starts its initial "upward" movement. In this case the aileron is reducing the lift on the wing and acting to oppose the upward motion. As the wing reaches its max upbending position and starts on its way down the aileron will want to reverse its deflection and again oppose the downward motion of the wing. Here the aileron is reducing the energy of the system or acting to dampen the motion. A similar behavior can be shown for a wing that is twisting. If the wing pitches "nose-down" a counterbalanced aileron will deflect up and tend to oppose the twisting. Imagine the airplane is flying in knife edge flight. Gravity will have no influence on the aileron with respect to the motion about its hinge line. Yet the aileron will still add energy or remove energy from the wing during a gust or other disturbance depending upon its balance condition. The same is true of the rudder and elevators. It is interesting to note that counterbalances are often found concentrated at the extreme outer portion of the control surface. This is where you see the greatest amount of movement in both twisting and up/down bending (flapping). This is where the concentrated mass of the counterbalance has the biggest effect of causing the control surface to oppose the motion of the main surface. This is not to say that all control surfaces MUST be counterbalanced to avoid flutter. Certainly many aircraft have flown without counterbalanced surfaces. This is also not to say that a control surface is required for flutter. Recall a stop sign twisting and bouncing when the wind direction and velocity is just right. To avoid this engineers try to design the twisting frequency of (i.e.) the wing different (typically much higher) than the flapping frequency. This is probably a gross simplification of all that is flutter. I've seen the formulas and they are pretty ugly. I do know that much of it depends upon the stiffness of the airframe/control system, the distribution of mass on the flying surfaces, and the speed of the aircraft. I have not had an opportunity to ride in a Lancair IV but I believe I've heard it is a fast plane, yes? 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