Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.2) with ESMTP id 1031231 for rob@logan.com; Sat, 26 Jan 2002 12:04:37 -0500 Received: from qbert.gami.com ([65.66.11.38]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 19:46:06 -0500 Received: by QBERT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:58:36 -0600 Message-ID: <52548863F8A5D411B530005004759A931C20DE@QBERT> From: George Braly To: "'glcasey@gte.net'" , lancair.list@olsusa.com Subject: RE: Crankshaft certification Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 18:56:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>I am curious - what is the FAA requirement for crankshaft certification? I didn't know there was any as I thought the engine got certified as a unit and folklore says that a run of 200 hours at full power is about all that is required - and the TBO is whatever the manufacturer says it is.<< Gary, Good questions and thoughts about waiting on Charlie's engine tear down. Looks like the crank is not an issue. Re: How do you certify a crank? With great difficulty... and large sums of money! You have to do a rather exhaustive survey sweeping RPM, MP at almost every possible combination while the crank shaft is instrumented up with strain gages to determine at which RPM, MP combination, the crank experiences the maximum strain reversals. You have to do this RPM sweep up through a 10% over speed condition. One then has to operate the crank through 10^7 of those maximum strain reversals. If the max strain reversals happen only once every 720degrees, it typically takes around 120 to 140 hours of operation at the specific adverse RPM & MP combination to meet this requirement (depending upon the exact RPM at which the peak strain reversals are happening.) This is all outside the course of the rest of the engine certification... although parts of the run times may overlap so that you can get credit for some engine run time towards the crank certification... but don't hold your breath. If the crank doesn't break by 10^7 strain reversals, then, absent physical damage to the crank, it will never break at that or any lower strain. However, I will mention, there are some serious issues, here, that are not well explored in the current knowledgebase at the FAA. Have you noticed that TCM/FADEC ran into a serious torsional vibration problem when they tried to run an IO-360 Lycoming on FADEC? Totally unanticipated, apparently. Regards, George >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>