Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b9) with ESMTP id 960107 for rob@logan.com; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 09:36:19 -0500 Received: from out007pub.verizon.net ([206.46.170.107]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 18 Nov 2001 08:26:59 -0500 Received: from GCasey (calnet31-66.gtecablemodem.com [207.175.254.66]) by out007pub.verizon.net with SMTP for ; id fAIDfiH23269 Sun, 18 Nov 2001 07:41:45 -0600 (CST) Reply-To: Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com From: "Gary Casey" To: Subject: dynamic balancing Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 05:39:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: <20011118065451.AAA11769@pop3.olsusa.com> Importance: Normal X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> >>After balance we ended up with a 20+ rpm increase in static max rpm and in flight I feel I got at least 20 rpm more. And a 40% reduction in vibration which I can feel as less noise and more quiet-smoother in flight .<< I think dynamic balancing is a necessary step, but... 1. I don't see where it will add power. The internal friction of the engine doesn't really change as the hydrodynamic losses in the bearings are 99% independent of the load on them. Other than that there is the damping losses in the engine mount rubber, which is pretty insignificant. 20 rpm equates to about 3 to 5% more power. I don't see how this could be. A lot of racers run at higher rpm, increasing the effect of out-of-balance conditions. It also seems like they have more money. 2. Assuming the "damper" was accurately balanced by itself, yes, it won't affect the overall balance of the engine. I assume you are using one because you have a wooden prop on a 4-cylinder engine. The purpose of the Damper - correctly called a "tuned absorber" is to dampen torsional vibrations in the crankshaft, not the linear vibrations you were trying to get rid of. 3. 40% reduction in perceived vibration and noise? Absolutely, assuming something was out of balance to start with. That can happen in a number of ways, mostly from imperfect alignment of the prop and crank. A very small runout, within the spec of each component separately, can cause a relatively large imbalance. If the required weights are in line with the blades (2-blade prop) one thing I would try first is to rotate the prop 180 and see if it goes down before adding the weight. 4. A good balance will make a lot of things last longer - gyros, radios, etc., but doesn't have much of anything to do with the engine itself lasting longer. The reduced stresses are miniscule compared to the combustion and inertia forces within the engine. Just my 2 cents worth. Gary Casey ES project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://members.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please remember that purchases from the Builders' Bookstore assist with the management of the LML. Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>