Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #9768
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: New Scoop
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 09:41:22 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
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Hi Rusty,
 
    K&W actually has a section on the analysis of the cooling component of drag.  I have skimmed over that section and would need to go back to it to get a feel for what percentage of the total drag it might be for an Rv.  The sleeker and faster your design (i.e. the lower the external drag factor) then the higher % of the total the cooling drag becomes.  So more important for the 200MPH+ crowd than say the 120 MPH and below crowd.
 
   I know there are some fairly reliable overall estimates of the drag of an RV (CAFE reports and others), so if an reasonably estimate of cooling drag could be calculated then we could sort of determine how much cooling drag is or is not affecting your overall performance.
 
  Your radiator cooling capacity would certainly appear to be more than you need given your low coolant temps (assuming they are close to the money) with your current set up.  But, the 2.85 and higher rpm producing more power will eat up some of that.
On an average comparing the RPM Tracy gets with the 2.85, I would say you will turn approx 1000 rpm more than the 2.17 that would mean in increase of approx 20% more BTU you will need to get rid of.  Of course with the faster acceleration and climb rate you could have more cooling air - or the "overcapacity" in cooling would permit you to climb at a slower airspeed and steeper angle.  So I wouldn't change anything - yet.
 
Ed
 
 
Ed Anderson
RV-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:42 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: New Scoop

If you design and tailored your cooling system for cooling in a steep climb on a hot day, you will have excessive cooling capacity at cruise (read - more cooling drag) than is necessary. 

Hey Ed,

I agree of course that you would have more cooling drag, but do you have any idea what the drag penalty would be for an RV style plane? 

I personally want to be able to climb at 100 kts, full throttle, on the hottest day, without ever exceeding any temps.  At the moment, I can, but the C drive and new prop may change things some.  I seem to have more excess water cooling, than oil cooling, and eventually, I may have to close up part of the radiator inlets.  

FWIW, the other day it was 92 degrees on the ground, and I climbed at 100 kts to 8k ft, full throttle.  The max oil temp was 195, and the max water was 178.  At 8000 ft, full throttle, temps settled in to be 183 for oil, and 130 for water.  That was at 196 mph TAS, with plenty of fairing work left to be done.  As for climb performance, I noticed that the EM-2 flight timer was on 7 minutes when I leveled out at 8k ft.  That's OK for now, but I expect to see that time to 8k ft be less than 4 min with the C drive.  

Rusty (just got home with a motorcycle, more like a training bike)  

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