Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao02.cox.net ([68.230.241.37] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b8) with ESMTP id 321889 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:43:20 -0400 Received-SPF: error receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.230.241.37; envelope-from=daveleonard@cox.net Received: from davidandanne ([68.111.224.107]) by fed1rmmtao02.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040715034248.GAWW20755.fed1rmmtao02.cox.net@davidandanne> for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:42:48 -0400 From: "DaveLeonard" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:42:54 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: I was really thinking about getting an MT as well, until some of the guys on the ACRE list told me about how many people are finding that the MT is significantly slower than a FP alum prop. Seems like a whole bunch of money to spend on something that doesn't help a lot. Dave Leonard > > > > > From: Mark Steitle > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 01:25:58 GMT > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > > > At 01:03 PM 7/14/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > From: Mark Steitle > > > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 12:26:55 GMT > > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > > > > > > > At 07:16 PM 7/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Mark Steitle wrote: > > > > > > > > > >>Hey Guys, > > > > >>A little while back a message was posted giving Jim Ayers > (Less Drag > > > > >>Products, Inc.) as a good source for M/T props. I have > contacted Jim > > > and > > > > >>he has given a pretty good price (that's relative) on a > 3-blade M/T > > > > >>prop. My question is this, has anyone on this list dealt with Mr. > > > > >>Ayers? If so, was everything handled per agreement? I > have no problem > > > > >>sending Tracy a check for a few thousand dollars, but I > don't know this > > > > >>gentleman, and though it would be prudent to ask around first. > > > > >> > > > > >>Thanks, > > > > >>Mark S. > > > > >>msteitle@mail.utexas.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Mark, > > > > > > > > > >I can't offer an experience-based opinion on his honesty, > but I have met > > > > >him & he seems to be a nice enough guy. His current claim > to fame on the > > > > >RV list is an insult swapping match with JT Helms, the > insurance agent > > > > >that runs the 'Vanguard' RV insurance program. (Rooted in some > > > > >misunderstanding of insurance by Jim & some insulting & tactless > > > > >'corrections' from JT.) > > > > > > > > > >Why not just place the order in writing, pay him by major > credit card & > > > > >send it through the US Mail? Most credit card companies > can & will be a > > > > >major help if merchants fail to deliver, and Postal > Inspectors take a > > > very > > > > >dim & aggressive view of mail fraud. > > > > > > > > > >Charlie > > > > Charlie, > > > > Good suggestions. I emailed the MT factory to verify his dealership > > > > authorization and got a reply this morning. He is highly > recommended by > > > > them. Thanks for your input. > > > > > > > > Mark > > >For the $ and the construction technique (all cf), try > Whirlwind props. I > > >know a few experimental acrobatic pilots and they love > them-light, cs if > > >you want, and great. They take lots of abuse. > > >Marc Wiese > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > Marc, > > I went to the Whirlwind website and read about their different > models of > > props. I didn't see where they make an electric CS model. So, > I sent them > > an email and will let the group know what they say. > > > > Thanks, > > Mark S. > No electric cs from Whirlwind. You are going cs? Try the Marcotte > gearbox or Francois' new one and use a standard cs hub with the > Whirlwind graphite blades. It's only money. > Marc > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html