Return-Path: Received: from mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net ([209.225.28.225] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b8) with ESMTP id 321453 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:06:44 -0400 Received-SPF: error receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.225.28.225; envelope-from=cardmarc@charter.net Received: from mxip17.cluster1.charter.net (mxip17a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.147]) by mxsf25.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i6EJAhoL031219 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:10:43 -0400 Received: from fep05.charter.net (HELO 209.225.8.224) (209.225.8.85) by mxip17.cluster1.charter.net with SMTP; 14 Jul 2004 15:06:10 -0400 Message-Id: <3a57rt$3erfno@mxip17a.cluster1.charter.net> X-Ironport-AV: i="3.81R,168,1083556800"; d="scan'208"; a="116244216:sNHT295231964" X-Mailer: Openwave WebEngine, version 2.8.12 (webedge20-101-197-20030912) From: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:06:09 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > From: Mark Steitle > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 01:25:58 GMT > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > At 01:03 PM 7/14/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > From: Mark Steitle > > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 12:26:55 GMT > > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > > > > > At 07:16 PM 7/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Mark Steitle wrote: > > > > > > > >>Hey Guys, > > > >>A little while back a message was posted giving Jim Ayers (Less Drag > > > >>Products, Inc.) as a good source for M/T props. I have contacted Jim > > and > > > >>he has given a pretty good price (that's relative) on a 3-blade M/T > > > >>prop. My question is this, has anyone on this list dealt with Mr. > > > >>Ayers? If so, was everything handled per agreement? I have no problem > > > >>sending Tracy a check for a few thousand dollars, but I don't know this > > > >>gentleman, and though it would be prudent to ask around first. > > > >> > > > >>Thanks, > > > >>Mark S. > > > >>msteitle@mail.utexas.edu > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Mark, > > > > > > > >I can't offer an experience-based opinion on his honesty, but I have met > > > >him & he seems to be a nice enough guy. His current claim to fame on the > > > >RV list is an insult swapping match with JT Helms, the insurance agent > > > >that runs the 'Vanguard' RV insurance program. (Rooted in some > > > >misunderstanding of insurance by Jim & some insulting & tactless > > > >'corrections' from JT.) > > > > > > > >Why not just place the order in writing, pay him by major credit card & > > > >send it through the US Mail? Most credit card companies can & will be a > > > >major help if merchants fail to deliver, and Postal Inspectors take a > > very > > > >dim & aggressive view of mail fraud. > > > > > > > >Charlie > > > Charlie, > > > Good suggestions. I emailed the MT factory to verify his dealership > > > authorization and got a reply this morning. He is highly recommended by > > > them. Thanks for your input. > > > > > > Mark > >For the $ and the construction technique (all cf), try Whirlwind props. I > >know a few experimental acrobatic pilots and they love them-light, cs if > >you want, and great. They take lots of abuse. > >Marc Wiese > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > Marc, > I went to the Whirlwind website and read about their different models of > props. I didn't see where they make an electric CS model. So, I sent them > an email and will let the group know what they say. > > Thanks, > Mark S. No electric cs from Whirlwind. You are going cs? Try the Marcotte gearbox or Francois' new one and use a standard cs hub with the Whirlwind graphite blades. It's only money. Marc