Return-Path: Received: from wb2-a.mail.utexas.edu ([128.83.126.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b8) with ESMTP-TLS id 320876 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:26:37 -0400 Received-SPF: error receiver=logan.com; client-ip=128.83.126.136; envelope-from=msteitle@mail.utexas.edu Received: (qmail 73938 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2004 13:26:05 -0000 Received: from dhcp-191-101.per.utexas.edu (HELO benefits3.mail.utexas.edu) (146.6.191.101) by wb2.mail.utexas.edu with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 14 Jul 2004 13:26:05 -0000 Message-Id: <5.1.1.5.2.20040714082408.02655c70@localhost> X-Sender: msteitle@mail.utexas.edu@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1.1 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 08:25:58 -0500 To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" From: Mark Steitle Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_57324515==.ALT" --=====================_57324515==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 01:03 PM 7/14/2004 +0000, you wrote: > > > > From: Mark Steitle > > Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 12:26:55 GMT > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props > > > > At 07:16 PM 7/13/2004 -0500, you wrote: > > >Mark Steitle wrote: > > > > > >>Hey Guys, > > >>A little while back a message was posted giving Jim Ayers (Less Drag > > >>Products, Inc.) as a good source for M/T props. I have contacted Jim > and > > >>he has given a pretty good price (that's relative) on a 3-blade M/T > > >>prop. My question is this, has anyone on this list dealt with Mr. > > >>Ayers? If so, was everything handled per agreement? I have no problem > > >>sending Tracy a check for a few thousand dollars, but I don't know this > > >>gentleman, and though it would be prudent to ask around first. > > >> > > >>Thanks, > > >>Mark S. > > >>msteitle@mail.utexas.edu > > > > > > > > >Hi Mark, > > > > > >I can't offer an experience-based opinion on his honesty, but I have met > > >him & he seems to be a nice enough guy. His current claim to fame on the > > >RV list is an insult swapping match with JT Helms, the insurance agent > > >that runs the 'Vanguard' RV insurance program. (Rooted in some > > >misunderstanding of insurance by Jim & some insulting & tactless > > >'corrections' from JT.) > > > > > >Why not just place the order in writing, pay him by major credit card & > > >send it through the US Mail? Most credit card companies can & will be a > > >major help if merchants fail to deliver, and Postal Inspectors take a > very > > >dim & aggressive view of mail fraud. > > > > > >Charlie > > Charlie, > > Good suggestions. I emailed the MT factory to verify his dealership > > authorization and got a reply this morning. He is highly recommended by > > them. Thanks for your input. > > > > Mark >For the $ and the construction technique (all cf), try Whirlwind props. I >know a few experimental acrobatic pilots and they love them-light, cs if >you want, and great. They take lots of abuse. >Marc Wiese > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html Marc, I went to the Whirlwind website and read about their different models of props. I didn't see where they make an electric CS model. So, I sent them an email and will let the group know what they say. Thanks, Mark S. --=====================_57324515==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" At 01:03 PM 7/14/2004 +0000, you wrote:

>
> From: Mark Steitle <msteitle@mail.utexas.edu>
> Date: 2004/07/14 Wed PM 12:26:55 GMT
> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Jim Ayers - M/T Props
>
> At 07:16 PM 7/13/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >Mark Steitle wrote:
> >
> >>Hey Guys,
> >>A little while back a message was posted giving Jim Ayers (Less Drag
> >>Products, Inc.) as a good source for M/T props. I have contacted Jim and
> >>he has given a pretty good price (that's relative) on a 3-blade M/T
> >>prop. My question is this, has anyone on this list dealt with Mr.
> >>Ayers? If so, was everything handled per agreement? I have no problem
> >>sending Tracy a check for a few thousand dollars, but I don't know this
> >>gentleman, and though it would be prudent to ask around first.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Mark S.
> >>msteitle@mail.utexas.edu
> >
> >
> >Hi Mark,
> >
> >I can't offer an experience-based opinion on his honesty, but I have met
> >him & he seems to be a nice enough guy. His current claim to fame on the
> >RV list is an insult swapping match with JT Helms, the insurance agent
> >that runs the 'Vanguard' RV insurance program. (Rooted in some
> >misunderstanding of insurance by Jim & some insulting & tactless
> >'corrections' from JT.)
> >
> >Why not just place the order in writing, pay him by major credit card &
> >send it through the US Mail? Most credit card companies can & will be a
> >major help if merchants fail to deliver, and Postal Inspectors take a very
> >dim & aggressive view of mail fraud.
> >
> >Charlie
> Charlie,
> Good suggestions. I emailed the MT factory to verify his dealership
> authorization and got a reply this morning. He is highly recommended by
> them. Thanks for your input.
>
> Mark
For the $ and the construction technique (all cf), try Whirlwind props. I know a few experimental acrobatic pilots and they love them-light, cs if you want, and great. They take lots of abuse.
Marc Wiese

>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
>> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html

Marc,
I went to the Whirlwind website and read about their different models of props. I didn't see where they make an electric CS model. So, I sent them an email and will let the group know what they say.

Thanks,
Mark S. --=====================_57324515==.ALT--