Return-Path: Received: from fed1rmmtao07.cox.net ([68.230.241.32] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b5) with ESMTP id 143605 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 07 Jun 2004 21:33:30 -0400 Received: from smtp.west.cox.net ([172.18.180.57]) by fed1rmmtao07.cox.net (InterMail vM.6.01.03.02 201-2131-111-104-20040324) with SMTP id <20040608013257.LGSK564.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2004 21:32:57 -0400 From: Dale Rogers To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: LS1 Coils - amp draw? Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2004 21:32:56 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20040608013257.LGSK564.fed1rmmtao07.cox.net@smtp.west.cox.net> ---------------- original message: > From: "Al Gietzen" > Date: 2004/06/07 Mon AM 11:52:28 EDT > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: LS1 Coils - amp draw? > > Tracy; > > Well; the worry is this. Safe wiring practice requires being able to > protect the wire, especially if it is in a bundle or close proximity with > other wires, against any failure which would overload the wire. Running the > numbers says that the maximum safe current for a 16 awg wire is 15 amps. If > I interpret you correctly; it is possible for my coil power lead to have to > carry 27 amps (for 3 coils) for a short time, which would trip a breaker, or > blow a fuse. Under these conditions one can not properly protect the wire > against a potential short - unless a much larger wire is used. My wires run > in a wiring duct, which isn't exactly a bundle, but the analysis says for 27 > amps in a bundle you need about a #10 wire. > > Further; I went to great lengths to maintain the redundancy that you also > strived for in the ECU with the dual controllers and the isolation switches. > I have the engine critical bus connected to the dual battery system, and > isolated by 40 amp diodes. I think you're suggesting that it's possible for > the coils to momentarily draw 54 amps (6 x 9), plus pump and injectors; > maybe up to nearly 70 amps. Ain't gonna work. > > So what am I misunderstanding here, or how do we get around this? Under > what temporary condition can this high current exist? Is there an > operational sequence to avoid this possible condition? Al, I'm not Tracy, but I do have some experience with wire and current draw. How about running a 10g wire from your source (essential bus?) to a fuse block with six stations. Then connect one 16g wire from each coil - supply side - to each of the six fuses. Wires are protected, and the current draw is well within the limits for each wire used. Plus, if you get a coil fault that blows the fuse, you only lose 1/6 of your fire. This assumes, of course, that the ECM is controlling the injectors at the "ground" side. Dale R. COZY MkIV-R #1254