Return-Path: Received: from m12.lax.untd.com ([64.136.30.75] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b5) with SMTP id 142155 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 20:29:28 -0400 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: MJX/NhAS4UNn7QTm17yF8Dm0awEQCRB4AFqAUOY+wh/CpeZB/yI7pA== Received: (from jschuber@juno.com) by m12.lax.untd.com (jqueuemail) id JXGW6RKP; Sun, 06 Jun 2004 17:28:36 PDT To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2004 20:27:50 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: opinion Message-ID: <20040606.203411.-366943.9.jschuber@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 5.0.33 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 1-2,6-7,11-12,17-26,28-70 From: Terry L Schubert The original NACA divergent inlet called for a ratio of width to height of 3 and 5 to 1 In other words , if you had a 15" wide inlet the opening should be 3-5" high. That 1-3/4 x 15-3/4 is not optimum . I doubt it allows full expansion so there is not full pressure developed in the duct and the air is not entering the cowl . (See CSA NewsletterJuly 1990, p2) I suggests you cover the area around the inlet with dirty oil and go fly 45 minutes. I'll bet the oil flows will show the air enters the duct but comes back out and continues back along the cowl's surface after the inlet lip. If you take pictures of the flow, please send them to me. The original NACA duct required an internal expansion area that VERY few people install. That omission reduces pressure recovery in the cowl and reduces cooling an appreciable amount. On my old Lycoming 235 installation I'd see a 50 F CHT change with the expansion area attached. I know you are running a rotary but cooling is cooling. Terry Schubert Central States Association Newsletter Editor On Sun, 6 Jun 2004 19:57:37 -0400 "John Slade" writes: > > the inside of the scoop measures 1-3/4" high by 15-3/4" wide. > That's strange. My NACA scoop is built per plans. How come yours is > 1 3/4 > wide? Are we measuring the same thing? From the floor of the scoop > to the > inside edge of the airfoil mine measures 3.25 * 15.4 for a total > square area > of about 50 sq inches. I don't have any additional scoops and so far > my > cooling seems adequate. > > > Today when flying straight and level, when I increased > > throttle, and increased speed, I also increased in oil and > coolant > > temperature, which tells me that I don't have enough air flow, or > > velocity, or pressure, or whatever the correct term is. > I think this would be expected. Increase power and temperatures will > go up, > at least initially. Does it stabilize at an acceptable temperature, > or does > it continue to climb? > > > As it turns out, I have some time to work on the scoop, especially > since > > I'll be doing a little fiberglass work anyway. > You could be going in the wrong direction here, Steve. I didn't do > much in > the way of contouring the intake areas, but I did make a bit of a > duct. > Maybe that's helping. The augmented exhaust may also be > contributing. > > I'd suggest more testing at different speeds and outside air temps > before > hacking at the scoops. > Regards, > John > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > >