Return-Path: Received: from [65.54.169.171] (HELO hotmail.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b4) with ESMTP id 130479 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 16:34:41 -0400 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 4 Jun 2004 13:34:09 -0700 Received: from 4.171.174.163 by bay3-dav141.bay3.hotmail.com with DAV; Fri, 04 Jun 2004 20:34:09 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [4.171.174.163] X-Originating-Email: [lors01@msn.com] X-Sender: lors01@msn.com From: "Tracy Crook" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Turbo boost limits in the EC2 Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 16:34:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2004 20:34:09.0996 (UTC) FILETIME=[4A35F0C0:01C44A73] > > I have some dyno data for a rotary car, 12A, ported, NA, 2x50mm TB, EFI, > 87 octane fuel. We were in search of real world ground truth on timing > (split, T&L identical, etc. ). I saw 165 RWHP with stock timing split, > 167 RWHP firing them simultaneously and 163 w/ the trailing disabled > though EGT was up ~50F. Leading disabled was a disaster - ~120 RWHP, > EGTs up 200F, glowing headers. All power figures quoted are at 7500 RPM. > The motivation for doing this little experiment was the fact that > Mazda's LeMans winning efforts used 3 plugs per rotor and fired them > simultaneously while using 80 octane fuel. Conclusion from our little > test, sample quantity 1, is that you might get a touch more HP firing > simultaneously. There is some literature that suggests the split timing > is more for low and mid emissions purposes. It also showed that dropping > the trailing affected HP very little, well within statistical jitter in > our case. Dropping leading looked dangerous and seemed to suggest that > more of the fuel was burning on the way out rather than providing > combustion chamber/rotor pressure/power. I'm sure this would be a bad > thing for you turbo folks! I know this is apples and oranges, but ... > there ya go. > > -Mike Great data Mike. It parallels exactly with my results but I didn't have dyno numbers to go with them. I also saw a 35 - 40 degree drop (nice thing on a rotary) when using same timing on lead & trail. Tracy