Return-Path: Received: from [216.52.245.18] (HELO ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 84379 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 22 May 2004 13:01:35 -0400 Received: from 7n7z201 (unverified [67.136.146.10]) by ispwestemail1.mdeinc.com (Vircom SMTPRS 3.1.300.2) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 22 May 2004 10:01:31 -0700 Message-ID: <0c7501c4401e$6bcfe600$c8918843@7n7z201> From: "William" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Shertz Beam Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 12:01:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Ruttan" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:51 AM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Shertz Beam > So it's your fault it has that horrible name? :) Unfortunately, yes > The idea seems a little different, so I wanted a bunch of eyes to take a > look. My buddy tells me the same idea is used on his contentinal. > > I have posted pictures of the mount at www.canardaviation.com/forum > > A direct link to the post tinyurl.com/2ms2d > > Some folks there had some questions, and some seemed a little critical. > They are a frendly sort, but I think they need an explination. Feel free to > respond to their questions, if you wish. > > I only have pictures of the beam itself, although Paul posted a pic with a > rear mount show. > Do you have any pictures of the "third mount". I posted a picture of what I "think" will work, on the other list. > Do you see any weekness in the mount, compared to a bed mount? > Can you explain how it will handel gyroscopic loads? Mine needs to have the side tabs welded on like Jerry Hey is doing > Do you see any reasong not to put it in a canard pusher? Being that it is 'experimental', no difference that I can see. > Do you have your origional pictures I could post there? I have to dig some out. > I have talked to Jerry and I am looking forward to getting his production > mount. > Driving ahis truck onto his mount does it for me. ME TOO. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William" > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:13 AM > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Shertz Beam > > > > Eric, > > When I put together the prototype of the motor mount, I posted pictures to > > both lists, I think. At the time of designing it, I did stress > calculations > > on different 'beams' to find a combination of dimensions and materials > that > > would put the bending stresses into an acceptable range. I settled on > 0.065 > > wall rectangular tubing measuring 2" x 1". I wanted to mount the oil > cooler > > below the motor mount beam for easy access to air. > > > > The further work that Jerry Hey has done, making it a 'hat section' allows > > easier fabrication, and he is statically loading the beam to test it, > which > > I did not. > > > > BTW, I did not name the mount. > > > > Bill Schertz > > KIS Cruiser # 4045 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Eric Ruttan" > > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > > Sent: Friday, May 21, 2004 10:11 PM > > Subject: [FlyRotary] Shertz Beam > > > > > > > I have examined the "Shertz Beam" Motor mount on "the other" Mail List. > > > > > > Searched and did not find a comment on this list. > > > > > > Other than it is recomended by "The Other" list, is there anything wrong > > > with it? > > > > > > I am looking for solid/semi solid engineering critique. I really dont > > want > > > to talk about "feelings" or "preferance". > > > > > > Thans for your time. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > > >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > >> Archive: http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/List.html